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[Maximus]

The root of the problem was not enosis with Greece, the root of the problem preceeds this event.

Try again.

[Viewpoint]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division, so just saying you no longer want enosis is not enough to repair the divided island, you need to show you are repentant and have changed accepting TCs as equal partners in a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Even you PM Erdogan does not agree with you on "equal partners" philosophy.

I already gave you a perfect 2 states federation based on political equality which you rejected, just because it was based on True Democracy and did not allow cessation of either state from the Cyprus Union, so stop with your crocodile tears.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan told President Abdullah Gül that “double-headed rule” would not benefit Turkey. The president had instructed Ankara’s governor to tolerate those who wanted to celebrate Republic Day independently despite the government ban.

“We have not ruled this country under double-headed governance.This country will go nowhere with double-headed rule.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/confus ... sCatID=338

Again you are unable to comprehend thet fact that BBF with political equality of the 2 states is not a two headed country, we would only have one representation the federal level to lead the country as a whole, your twist is just proganda aimed at scar mongering the GCs who obviously do not want to share equally as was the case with your failed and dangerous plan to gift the whole island to the GCs, if thats "true democracy" you can stick it where the sun dont shine we will never gift away our country to revenge seeking GCs.

I comprehend perfectly on what your PM Erdogan is saying. He is saying, No way Jose on "Equal Partnership" for Turkey in what you are asking for Cyprus. Equal Partnership in what you are asking for is something totally different than political equality of the 2 states which what the USA has in their True Federation, which you reject for all the reasons I have given you before. Hardly surprising for someone who says "I'm a partitionist at Heart"!

You have zero credibility to convince anyone otherwise.

I am not trying to convince anyone I am only trying to put accross my own viewpoint and test it against what others have to say, to date you have not put forward anything that would convince me to change my view that partition which is not a dirty word is the best solution for all as neither side really watn desire or fight for a unified island.

[Viewpoint]

The root of the problem was not enosis with Greece, the root of the problem preceeds this event.

Try again.

Duhhh do you live on this planet?

[Me Ed]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division, so just saying you no longer want enosis is not enough to repair the divided island, you need to show you are repentant and have changed accepting TCs as equal partners in a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

... and that will probably happen right after Turkey and TCs apologise for colonising Cyprus in the first place.

[ZoC]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division,

i doubt malta would be divided if it chose to unite with, i dunno, italy or france. corsica's united with france and isn't divided. sardinia's united with italy but isn't divided. not sure how an island uniting with a country leads to it having to divide. unless... unless...

here's the cause and effect. cause=unwelcome and uninvited invaders who settle and won't integrate, over centuries; effect=division.

[B25]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division,

i doubt malta would be divided if it chose to unite with, i dunno, italy or france. corsica's united with france and isn't divided. sardinia's united with italy but isn't divided. not sure how an island uniting with a country leads to it having to divide. unless... unless...

here's the cause and effect. cause=unwelcome and uninvited invaders who settle and won't integrate, over centuries; effect=division.

Amen to that!

[Viewpoint]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division,

i doubt malta would be divided if it chose to unite with, i dunno, italy or france. corsica's united with france and isn't divided. sardinia's united with italy but isn't divided. not sure how an island uniting with a country leads to it having to divide. unless... unless...

here's the cause and effect. cause=unwelcome and uninvited invaders who settle and won't integrate, over centuries; effect=division.

Have they got large percentage of the population against such a union? and will they fight against such a move if they thought it would meant their death warrant?

[ZoC]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division,

i doubt malta would be divided if it chose to unite with, i dunno, italy or france. corsica's united with france and isn't divided. sardinia's united with italy but isn't divided. not sure how an island uniting with a country leads to it having to divide. unless... unless...

here's the cause and effect. cause=unwelcome and uninvited invaders who settle and won't integrate, over centuries; effect=division.

Have they got large percentage of the population against such a union? and will they fight against such a move if they thought it would meant their death warrant?

so, like i said, ur the cause of the problem. ur the cause of the division. QED.

[Viewpoint]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division,

i doubt malta would be divided if it chose to unite with, i dunno, italy or france. corsica's united with france and isn't divided. sardinia's united with italy but isn't divided. not sure how an island uniting with a country leads to it having to divide. unless... unless...

here's the cause and effect. cause=unwelcome and uninvited invaders who settle and won't integrate, over centuries; effect=division.

Have they got large percentage of the population against such a union? and will they fight against such a move if they thought it would meant their death warrant?

so, like i said, ur the cause of the problem. ur the cause of the division. QED.

Wrong the cause is the desire to gift ones country to another, without that there would be no division.

[Maximus]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division,

i doubt malta would be divided if it chose to unite with, i dunno, italy or france. corsica's united with france and isn't divided. sardinia's united with italy but isn't divided. not sure how an island uniting with a country leads to it having to divide. unless... unless...

here's the cause and effect. cause=unwelcome and uninvited invaders who settle and won't integrate, over centuries; effect=division.

Have they got large percentage of the population against such a union? and will they fight against such a move if they thought it would meant their death warrant?

so, like i said, ur the cause of the problem. ur the cause of the division. QED.

Wrong the cause is the desire to gift ones country to another, without that there would be no division.

How do you explain the TC's being against independece and gifting the country to colonialists then? This was before enosis but after enosis was offered to Greece by the would be colonialists.

The root of the problem was not enosis, it was the apartheid and discriminative regime the Turks with RoC citizenship wanted to hold on to.