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Postby Me Ed » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:23 pm

They've just discovered Jimmy Savile's memoirs.

The lastest entry was ten years old.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:51 am

I heard the Greek government has asked for Jimmy Savile’s body to be returned along with some marbles... :?
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Re: jimmy savile

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:23 am

Have just found a few names that are mentioned on the internet.

Not gonna repeat them and would urge no one else to, cos these are allegations on the internet.

... it includes figures from the very, very top, one formerly in the top position, of the GB Tory Party.
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Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:15 am

Strange that the lesson we are told should be learned from the Jimmy Savile experience is that there should be no cover ups and even the faintest of rumours should be followed up -but now we have the PM, Cameron, attempting a cover up and telling us to ignore rumours!
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:59 am

The GB Government and its spokespeople have spent much of the day and almost all of their efforts in a distraction, in shooting the messenger who publicised the existence of this list of names...

... which should make us all the more keen to see this investigated thoroughly.

... but let's continue to stay away from naming names.
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Re: jimmy savile

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:17 am

here we go - allegations of a cover up by TB connected with a case possibly even more serious than Jimmy Saville, as Children ended up dead.
http://www.tpuc.org/node/34
While British Prime Minister Tony Blair is under criminal suspicion in the "honours-for-cash" scandal that has rocked his Labour government, we have been told that there is an even more explosive scandal that Blair, up to now, has managed to hide behind the draconian British policy of issuing "D-Notices," government orders that prohibit the British media from reporting on certain "national security" cases.

The latest allegations came to light following a campaign to lift the secrecy on the Dunblane massacre. Large sections of the police report were banned from the public domain under a 100-year secrecy order. Lord Cullen, an establishment insider, also omitted and censored references to the documents in his final report. Parents and teachers were advised to concentrate their efforts on a campaign to outlaw handguns instead of focusing on how the mentally unstable Freemason, already known by the police to be a paedophile, had obtained a firearms licence for six handguns. Hamilton allegedly enjoyed good relations with both local Labour luminary George Robertson and Michael Forsyth, the then Scottish Secretary of State and MP for Stirling. Forsyth congratulated and encouraged Hamilton for running a boy's club. Hamilton was also found to have exchanged letters with the British monarch, Queen Elizabeth.


Now where in this is there a national security risk so great, that documents part of the public enquiry are now state secrets to be held for 100 years? Funny kind of public enquiry. Why, when Thomas Hamilton's application for a gun licence was turned down, due to him being regarded as a man of unsound character [and] him being the object of several paedophilia investigations, did his MP, our friend George Robertson (now Lord Robertson, Secretary-General of NATO), write him a glowing character reference, and personally see to it that his application was successful, when he knew the grounds for the original refusal were because he was suspected of procuring boys for sexual services?"

Dunblane may have been just over 11 years ago, but the questions still loom, that have to be answered.

1.No proper Autopsy and no inquest on Hamilton?

2. Reasons unknown - Shoots Kids? - was he a scape goat to get rid of evidence of a paedophile ring of MP's and Mason's in Scotland? - there seems to be mounting evidence to prove this theory.

3. Receives Shotgun Licence even though he was turned down by normal channels - Why was Lord Robertson not prosecuted for refereeing his application?

4. Why did he shoot himself with a different gun from the one he shot the kid's with, even though the first gun still hand rounds in it? - strange to say the least.

These and many more questions, still remain unanswered.
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Re: jimmy savile

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:50 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Strange that the lesson we are told should be learned from the Jimmy Savile experience is that there should be no cover ups and even the faintest of rumours should be followed up -but now we have the PM, Cameron, attempting a cover up and telling us to ignore rumours!


bill cobbett wrote:The GB Government and its spokespeople have spent much of the day and almost all of their efforts in a distraction, in shooting the messenger who publicised the existence of this list of names...

... which should make us all the more keen to see this investigated thoroughly.

... but let's continue to stay away from naming names.


The message from the PM was that to avoid a witch hunt not to rely on rumour and gossip but that anyone with information (not rumour or Gossip) should take it to the Police where it can be followed up properly, where as has now appears to be the case one senior Tory who was named seems to have been mistakenly identified (though it might have been a close relative who is now dead). There must not be a cover up but due process must be followed to avoid prejudicing any trial of the the alleged participants.
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Re: jimmy savile

Postby Lordo » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:51 pm

one obvious question that must be answered is what kind of a moron is tasked to investigate child abuse in care homes and whilst collecting evidence simply disregard any evidence where the children were taken outside of the care home and then abused. should the police not be investigating those who had the evidence but simply hid it. are they not in some way committing a crime doing that.
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Re: jimmy savile

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:01 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Strange that the lesson we are told should be learned from the Jimmy Savile experience is that there should be no cover ups and even the faintest of rumours should be followed up -but now we have the PM, Cameron, attempting a cover up and telling us to ignore rumours!


bill cobbett wrote:The GB Government and its spokespeople have spent much of the day and almost all of their efforts in a distraction, in shooting the messenger who publicised the existence of this list of names...

... which should make us all the more keen to see this investigated thoroughly.

... but let's continue to stay away from naming names.


The message from the PM was that to avoid a witch hunt not to rely on rumour and gossip but that anyone with information (not rumour or Gossip) should take it to the Police where it can be followed up properly, where as has now appears to be the case one senior Tory who was named seems to have been mistakenly identified (though it might have been a close relative who is now dead). There must not be a cover up but due process must be followed to avoid prejudicing any trial of the the alleged participants.


Yes of course there must be a proper investigation and we must continue not to name anybody on the list... but Stud, you know as well as the rest of us that your account of the statement by Cameron isn't the whole truth. There is another important word that he used to pre-fix the word "witch-hunt".

It was a massive blunder by the GB PM Cameron to use that word. Indeed it was a mistake to say anything other than avoid commenting pending an investigation.
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Re: jimmy savile

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:07 pm

Lordo wrote:one obvious question that must be answered is what kind of a moron is tasked to investigate child abuse in care homes and whilst collecting evidence simply disregard any evidence where the children were taken outside of the care home and then abused. should the police not be investigating those who had the evidence but simply hid it. are they not in some way committing a crime doing that.


Let's face it Lordo... the standard of some poooblic eeenqueeeries in GB in the past have been lamentably poor.

Look at the recent debate and exposure of the Hillsborough Football Disaster Inquiry as very seriously flawed (to say the least), an inquiry that didn't get to the root cause of the disaster and which may have contributed to the cover-up of the role of the police in the affair.
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