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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:42 am

sadik wrote:
Kypreos wrote:
Just do yourself a favour and check it out... the truth will shock you...


Kypreos, why is this important for you?

For Turkish Cypriots religion is something very personal. We neither have a religious establishment nor religious leaders. For most people, the only time they gather for a religious ceromony is for funerals. I don't know any Turkish Cypriot woman who covers her hair. Ataturk's reforms on religion were very enthusiastically supported by Turkish Cypriots at the time, and they still are being supported.


Hear hear,I'll second that Sadik.
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Postby faruk » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:06 am

Kypreos wrote:He is regarded a hero in Turkey... Pfffffftt.... this so called hero cancelled the caliphate(islamic leaders) he abondand all rulings of ALLAH he abondand the azan(calling of prayer) in arabic... he stopped the muslim sisters from obeying ALLAH by banning the hijab(headscarf). he got rid of the islamic calenders.... he changed the turkish alphabet from arabic to latin so there knowledge would be lost. he turned a muslim country into a westernised state... look at turkey today...

they have raki which is a mock up Ouzo
they have halay which is a mock up Zorba

and the turks that say we didnt copy.. the greeks copied... since when did the osmanli empire drink alcohol? since when did they dance and shake there butts and do the halay... ottoman empire the most pwoerful islamic empire of all time... ataturk stole other peoples cultures to make it ur cultures trying to make u guys westernised...

man i had more respect when u guys were muslims and were under ottoman empire.... at least under ottoman empire greeks were allowed to live in istanbul.... and left in piece.. ataturk comes and kicks us out...

and in 1974 the turkish invasion of cyprus... all those soldiers were brainwashed with ataturk ideology.... murderers... how can i respect ataturk when his ideology caused destruction to the greeks.

all i recommend to the turks... follow ur islam and u will have my respect... dont copy us... its just pathetic...

and if ur a turk and u like ataturk... man i understand in a turkish point of view ... france britian the anzacs.... and he defended ur country from the invading armies..... ok u can praise him for saving ur country... but what did he do once he saved ur country? he destroyed ur turkey...


just sorry for you.. you are bewildered
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Postby salonica » Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:25 pm

attaturk??

well he did accomplished something very difficult......he created a nation that never existed.

All these posters in every corner, in every mosque, is just a simple and up until recently a succesfull attempt to protect attaturk's achievement.
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Postby mehmet » Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:21 pm

Hi All,

The main reason of course why Ataturk is still well regarded by most Turks is becasue every institution in the Turkish state is dedicated to preserving his legacy. To this end everyone learns about Ataturk's life and his achievements. If you step back from the propoganda I will say that what he achieved was to create a state that went against the 'big' powers intersts of the day. The French and British had plans to carve up Anatolia just like they did the Arabic speaking lands they conquerd. They had a puppet in Istanbul (the Sultan) who would do anything to maintain what was left of his influence. Eventually the people of Europe tired of their leaders thirst for war and turned against them as they had enough of war and wanted to live in peace. This is where the careers of Lloyd George and Churchill came to a stop (in Churchill's case only temporarily).
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Postby Main_Source » Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:47 pm

The French and British had plans to carve up Anatolia just like they did the Arabic speaking lands they conquerd.


So are you saying the Arabs WANTED to carry on being under occupation of the Ottoman Empire!? lol...

Go ask an Arab what they think...I know Arabs who wont even go into a Turkish kebab house. You guys are seriously brainwashed into thinking the actions of of Ataturk were morally correct.
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Postby Khan » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:12 pm

Main_Source wrote:
The French and British had plans to carve up Anatolia just like they did the Arabic speaking lands they conquerd.


So are you saying the Arabs WANTED to carry on being under occupation of the Ottoman Empire!? lol...

Go ask an Arab what they think...I know Arabs who wont even go into a Turkish kebab house. You guys are seriously brainwashed into thinking the actions of of Ataturk were morally correct.


He wasnt saying that at all. He was just highlighting the western powers plans to carve up the middle east.
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Postby faruk » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:29 am

Main_Source wrote:
The French and British had plans to carve up Anatolia just like they did the Arabic speaking lands they conquerd.


So are you saying the Arabs WANTED to carry on being under occupation of the Ottoman Empire!? lol...

Go ask an Arab what they think...I know Arabs who wont even go into a Turkish kebab house. You guys are seriously brainwashed into thinking the actions of of Ataturk were morally correct.


I think you miss the point..there is nothing written there as you said. The point what you misunderstood is that GB and France wanted to split Anatolia as they did in Arabia.
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Postby 2fan » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:05 am

Main_Source wrote:
The French and British had plans to carve up Anatolia just like they did the Arabic speaking lands they conquerd.


So are you saying the Arabs WANTED to carry on being under occupation of the Ottoman Empire!? lol...

Go ask an Arab what they think...I know Arabs who wont even go into a Turkish kebab house. You guys are seriously brainwashed into thinking the actions of of Ataturk were morally correct.


Edited by Admin. No personal attacks please

Please 2Fan, I assume you meant this to be humorous but it might be misunderstood, Lana
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