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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:48 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:"They found, among other things, that once a country reaches a debt-to-GDP ratio of about 90%, there's trouble brewing"

This must be the discovery of the century! :lol:
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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:10 pm

Back to the OP .................. :roll:

The EU is not a “Person”: Granting the Nobel Prize to the European Union is in Violation of Alfred Nobel’s WillBy Prof Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, October 13, 2012
Full article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-eu-is-not-a-person-granting-the-nobel-prize-to-the-european-union-is-in-violation-of-alfred-nobels-will-2/5308142

This year’s Nobel Peace Prize was granted to the European Union (EU) for its relentless contribution to “the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe.”

While the EU’s contribution to peace is debatable, the key issue is whether a union of nation states, which constitutes a political, economic, monetary and fiscal entity is an “eligible candidate” for the Peace Prize, in accordance with the mandate of the Norwegian Committee.


The Olympic Games are “granted” to countries. But the Nobel Peace Prize cannot under any stretch of the imagination be granted to a nation-state, let alone a union of nation states.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has a responsibility to ascertain “the eligibility of candidates” in accordance with the Will of Alfred Bernhard Nobel (Paris, 27 November, 1895).

“The whole of my remaining realizable estate shall be dealt with in the following way: the capital, invested in safe securities by my executors, shall constitute a fund, the interest on which shall be annually distributed in the form of prizes to those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit to mankind….

The said interest shall be divided into five equal parts, which shall be apportioned as follows: one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery or invention within the field of physics; one part to the person who shall have made the most important chemical discovery or improvement; one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery within the domain of physiology or medicine; one part to the person who shall have produced in the field of literature the most outstanding work in an ideal direction; and one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses. …

[F]or champions of peace [the prize will be awarded] by a committee of five persons to be elected by the Norwegian Storting. It is my express wish that in awarding the prizes no consideration whatever shall be given to the nationality of the candidates, but that the most worthy shall receive the prize, whether he be a Scandinavian or not.


Will of Alfred Bernhard Nobel, November 27, 1895, emphasis added


The conditions set out in Alfred Nobel’s Will have been twisted upside down.

Nobel’s Will is crystal clear. The five prizes are to be granted to “persons”.
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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:40 pm

Dozens of institutes, conglomerates etc have won before and I think it's the President who usually receives the prize.

Guess who the President of the EU happens to be on the 10th December 2012? :D
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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:14 pm

Guess who the President of the EU happens to be on the 10th December 2012?


Christofias and you may think he is the president of the EU, but he is only the President of the country which holds the rotating presidency of the EU. They are not the same thing.

Anyway you are wrong, it is sometimes awarded to an individual within an organisation and it is not always the President.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/


Irrespective of the above ......... Nobel’s Will is very, very clear. The awards are to PERSONS and the European Union (as the article clearly states) is not a person.
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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:47 pm

The EU is made up of many persons - what's your problem? :roll:

As for the logic behind having the present President (country) of the EU receiving the award; well, being a rotating position, it more than anything else represents ALL the persons of the EU.
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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:30 pm

The Peace Prize has been awarded to organisations in the past, including...

IAEA in 2005, Intergov Panel on Climate Change in 2007... oh and our friends in the UN Peacekeeping Forces got it in 1988.

Credible link at... http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/
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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:36 pm

I think it's still hot in Limassol.
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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:26 pm

The five prizes are to be granted to “persons".


...to answer your question with a question:

...define, Individual. (big hint, Persons are not Individuals)
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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:35 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
The five prizes are to be granted to “persons".


...to answer your question with a question:

...define, Individual. (big hint, Persons are not Individuals)


The anti-EU brigade are falling over themselves to try and rubbish this award. Anyway, you are quite right. In Law a Person is:

"A human or organization with legal rights and duties."

That pretty much sums up the organisation of the EU. :)
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Re: Cyprus and Greece Share Nobel Peace Prize ...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:41 pm

Anyway, there are many reasons why Cyprus/Greece should be the one(s) to accept this award ...
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