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[non-cypriot]

non-cypriot you can be a GC and still out of the equation Ill let you work out how.

As for minority in our own country, numerically yes but partnership wise it makes us no less a partner, as the 1960 international agreements state we have veto and guarantee rights which we will never let go. This clearly means we will never be just some minority like the blacks in the USA, we are more than that and will give up our struggle to have our own state where we can administer ourselves with a federal level where we will have equal say to the GC state.

The governing module Cypriots choose, its entirely up to Cypriots to democratically and fairy decide. Thats a part that as an outsider i will not get in to. Kikapu has posted some time ago a very interesting federal solution, but Ultimately as long as you all can live in peace under one flag, and as long as you all can get rid of an army that has murdered and raped their way into your country, Federal or not, all will be good at some point in time...

they did what. get a life .

learn what happened before you open your big gob sunshine.

You sound like Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf aka "comical Ali" during the Iraq invasion, stating to journalists that Saddam's forces were repelling the invasion while american tanks were advancing right behind him...

cyprus38183.html

http://www.crethiplethi.com/the-turkish ... rkey/2010/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

http://www.enotes.com/kurds-reference/kurds

As comical as you sound, there is nothing comical about the atrocities committed by Turkey where ever their army has passed...

funny you should mention chemical Ali. have you heard of komical kikostaki.

now tell us how many tcs were killed and raped or both between 1963 and 1967.
how many tcs were driven from their homes and their homes destroyed. who was in charge of law and order. who gave the order to kill innocent civilians.

what has anything that happened in bulgaria or any other land got to do with cyprus and the comment you made about turkeys activities in cyprus.

when it comes to rapes in cyprus after 1974, considering there were 50000 soldiers involved and there are 200 cases of rapes reported to the un, i would say considering it is war, it is rather on the low side dont you think.

Only 200 rapes!!? Thats ok then... So i'm wrong to assume that the vast majority of woman will not report a rape out of shear same...? That would pump up your twisted statistic, don't you think...

War Rape, is a tool that has been used since the beginning of wars. There are plenty on reports and analysis on war rape online. In every single one of them the turkish army comes on the forefront... Its encouraged since the dawn of the ottoman empire and still practiced today...

However, you find normal that in the 20th century, women and children get pulled out of their homes and raped!!! I'm utterly discussed with your remark!!

I do not know how many Cypriots from both communities suffered atrocities during the conflicts. In my view, 1 is 1 too many... Also, i will not comment the issues between Cypriots as i do not take sides. As an outsider, i benefit from not being emotionally involved, and the picture i get is that the people of Cyprus have been played against each other to serve 3rd parties...

[Daniel meyer]

Cyprus is a small island and two community should try and start live together,Turkish cypriots are not niggers

[Lordo]

if you dont know something then may suggest you learn it before you open your mouth and make a fool of yourself.
not half as disgusted as i am with your comments so far. in 63 to 67 hundreds of tcs were raped not many reported. in 74 god only knows what they did to those women children when they murdered them and then tried to burn them. 16 day old baby murdered. 12 years old boys beheaded and you spout out how bad turkey was and not a word about what eoka did to innocent tcs. i dont know where you are from but i suggest you go back there and mind your own business and let us sort out our own problems out. in the mean time you have a nice day my friend in the nicest possible way.

[non-cypriot]

if you dont know something then may suggest you learn it before you open your mouth and make a fool of yourself.
not half as disgusted as i am with your comments so far. in 63 to 67 hundreds of tcs were raped not many reported. in 74 god only knows what they did to those women children when they murdered them and then tried to burn them. 16 day old baby murdered. 12 years old boys beheaded and you spout out how bad turkey was and not a word about what eoka did to innocent tcs. i dont know where you are from but i suggest you go back there and mind your own business and let us sort out our own problems out. in the mean time you have a nice day my friend in the nicest possible way.

I do not know how many Cypriots suffered atrocities as a result of the conflicts between the two communities, however i have made it pretty clear that thats not what i am discussing here, so don't try to twist the context again. My point is, why the hell is turkey still illegally occupying part a EU member nation with out any of the main western powers doing anything..! The answer is pretty obvious. In fact, some of these western powers would gladly recognise occupied Cyprus as turkish territory, just to keep a strategic ally happy... evan more so in the actual world scenario...

[repulsewarrior]

...i think it is geography. if Greece has military control of this island, it becomes an equal to Turkey's influence over the region. better an impotent backwater as it was before the Modern Age, says Turkey. speaking of that, who says the Treaty of Lausanne was not a sham? as Property, it is likely that Turkey believes this of the British, it is natural therefore for them to deny any event which may have developed over time, and it explains alot about their acts. so too the EEZ, with a Turkey that aspires to claim a "Continental Shelf" from Italy to Egypt.

...only a "perfect" Cyprus can exist so that these two powers can be levered from this fulcrum. (it wil take one spark for Cypriots to realise this potential).

cheers, non-cypriot, and welcome.

[bill cobbett]

if you dont know something then may suggest you learn it before you open your mouth and make a fool of yourself.
not half as disgusted as i am with your comments so far. in 63 to 67 hundreds of tcs were raped not many reported. in 74 god only knows what they did to those women children when they murdered them and then tried to burn them. 16 day old baby murdered. 12 years old boys beheaded and you spout out how bad turkey was and not a word about what eoka did to innocent tcs. i dont know where you are from but i suggest you go back there and mind your own business and let us sort out our own problems out. in the mean time you have a nice day my friend in the nicest possible way.

The ever-reliable Lordo... can always be relied on to post rubbish claims, straight out of the kafenia of Loorollshitigina, that are not only unconfirmed by the evidence from independent sources... but are now by Lordo's own admission ... "unreported" ... "unreported" to anyone or anybody other than Lordo...

[bill cobbett]

I do not know how many Cypriots suffered atrocities as a result of the conflicts between the two communities, however i have made it pretty clear that thats not what i am discussing here, so don't try to twist the context again. My point is, why the hell is turkey still illegally occupying part a EU member nation with out any of the main western powers doing anything..! The answer is pretty obvious. In fact, some of these western powers would gladly recognise occupied Cyprus as turkish territory, just to keep a strategic ally happy... evan more so in the actual world scenario...

Very perceptive and well said non-cypriot in the last part but in the first part, as soon as we talk of "two communities" we fall in to the trap of the Partitionists like Lordo. Imho there is only one community in CY and that's the indivisible national community of all CYs.

On the matter of Lordo by the way, some have said that he is a poor excuse for a human being, someone who is unapologetic for Turkish Crimes, someone who makes things up as he goes along, who never quotes a verifiable source for his exaggerated or fabricated stories and as you can perhaps imagine he's very over-weight.

[Lordo]

unfortunately when your eoka friends comitted the crimes they were notmally in the police stations or the whole villages were wiped out. no witnesses they thought. well you want evidence go find it my friends i have all the evidence i need.

but then again if the roc does not permit a documentary to be shown on tv produced by a greek cypriot what chance have you ignorant poor zombies got.

can you really not find any evidence and you want me to fin it. it will cost you money up front. education is not cheap my friends. perhaps if you listened a bit more to the people who lived there at the time you would not be so ignorant of the facts or even ignorant full stop.

you telling me eoka killed all these people and did not rape any of them. what were they all gay. even if they were then the young boys they killed would not have escaped their attention.

raise your heads above the parapet of ignorance and you will be amazed what you will see. honest gov.

as to the little cahrlies well what can i say. grow up my friend.

[bill cobbett]

Loada rubbeeeeesh ... and see you don't deny that you're over-weight Lordo...???

(You know i have photographic evidence of the weight problem, which out of a respect you don't really deserve, won't be posted here)

[Lordo]

Loada rubbeeeeesh ... and see you don't deny that you're over-weight Lordo...???

(You know i have photographic evidence of the weight problem, which out of a respect you don't really deserve, won't be posted here)

how interesting.

first of all you dont know me from adam.
secondly you dont have my picture.
thirdly have you asked the permission of this person of which his photo you are threatening to publish.
fourhtly how does that sit with human rights of the person of which you are going to publish his photo.
fifthly how does the site owners view this kind of behaviour.
sixthly how does this in any way contribute to the debate.
sevenhly is this standard practice of the greek cypriot/charlie mentality.
eightly when did you guys change policy of ridiculing people on their looks instead of a bullet in the head and pushed down a dry well.
ninthly if i have not denied that i was overweight by your own reasoning i cannot lie.
tenthly talking of looks have you looked in the mirror lately. spare the poor thing the last thing it needs is a crack or too.
and finally eleventhly you do not deserve my thoughts and this will be my last post on this forum so you and the rest of the likes of you swineriders can well and truly get stuffed.

now put that in your pipe and smoke it.