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What happens if??

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:01 pm

A TC visits a government office in a united Cyprus in the south the signs are all in Greek and the lady at the help desk speaks very little if any English and absolutely no Turkish. What happens next? What responsiblities does the south state have and what will be the procedure for the TC to follow?
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Re: What happens if??

Postby Kikapu » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:A TC visits a government office in a united Cyprus in the south the signs are all in Greek and the lady at the help desk speaks very little if any English and absolutely no Turkish. What happens next? What responsiblities does the south state have and what will be the procedure for the TC to follow?


Same way what happens in Switzerland under multi lingual system, and the same way a GC would face in the north under the same senario. :roll:

In any case, a TC would not need to go to the south state for anything concerning the south states' government, unless they happen to live in the south state of course, in which case, there will be TCs employed also..

More GCs speak English that those living in the north.

Look at you. You barely make any sense in English (most probably in Turkish also). You comprehend even less! :lol:
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Re: What happens if??

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:52 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:A TC visits a government office in a united Cyprus in the south the signs are all in Greek and the lady at the help desk speaks very little if any English and absolutely no Turkish. What happens next? What responsiblities does the south state have and what will be the procedure for the TC to follow?


Same way what happens in Switzerland under multi lingual system, and the same way a GC would face in the north under the same senario. :roll:

In any case, a TC would not need to go to the south state for anything concerning the south states' government, unless they happen to live in the south state of course, in which case, there will be TCs employed also..

More GCs speak English that those living in the north.

Look at you. You barely make any sense in English (most probably in Turkish also). You comprehend even less! :lol:


And you are avoiding the real question what happens if there are no TC employed like the situation today in the south, the majority of people cannot speak or understand English, the government offices are all in Greek and the people are down right rude...how will the system be forced to deal with everybody as equals?
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Re: What happens if??

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:What responsiblities does the south state have and what will be the procedure for the TC to follow?

That's an easy one... the TC gets arrested, spends the evening in jail and then faces a bogus court in the morning.
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Re: What happens if??

Postby Kikapu » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:24 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:A TC visits a government office in a united Cyprus in the south the signs are all in Greek and the lady at the help desk speaks very little if any English and absolutely no Turkish. What happens next? What responsiblities does the south state have and what will be the procedure for the TC to follow?


Same way what happens in Switzerland under multi lingual system, and the same way a GC would face in the north under the same senario. :roll:

In any case, a TC would not need to go to the south state for anything concerning the south states' government, unless they happen to live in the south state of course, in which case, there will be TCs employed also..

More GCs speak English that those living in the north.

Look at you. You barely make any sense in English (most probably in Turkish also). You comprehend even less! :lol:


And you are avoiding the real question what happens if there are no TC employed like the situation today in the south, the majority of people cannot speak or understand English, the government offices are all in Greek and the people are down right rude...how will the system be forced to deal with everybody as equals?


You don't have a real question. You are just trying to stir up shit as usual.

You cannot compare today's situation to tomorrow's Federal Cyprus, so don't even try it.

You have ZERO experience living in a Federal or Confederate system. I have in both and it works just fine, as long as all the EU (western) principles are applied. All the principles which you hate!
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Re: What happens if??

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:04 am

So we understand by your response that as usual you have no real answer, just leave things to luck and hope for the best....in short nothing will be done and the TC will rapidly become a second class citizens among GCs.
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Re: What happens if??

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:08 am

Viewpoint wrote:So we understand by your response that as usual you have no real answer, just leave things to luck and hope for the best....in short nothing will be done and the TC will rapidly become a second class citizens among GCs.


guts would be something like the Cypriots who picked themselves up and in a few short years from one third of the population homeless, to an EU member State; and now you are saying that these people cannot be rational Human Beings, just because if they are not "Turkish", they must be "Greek". real answer, there are Modern people, they live in the real world, they respect the Rule of Law, your assumption assumes that somehow Individuality cannot exist, like before Ataturk, we are only Persons.
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Re: What happens if??

Postby wyoming cowboy » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:30 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So we understand by your response that as usual you have no real answer, just leave things to luck and hope for the best....in short nothing will be done and the TC will rapidly become a second class citizens among GCs.


guts would be something like the Cypriots who picked themselves up and in a few short years from one third of the population homeless, to an EU member State; and now you are saying that these people cannot be rational Human Beings, just because if they are not "Turkish", they must be "Greek". real answer, there are Modern people, they live in the real world, they respect the Rule of Law, your assumption assumes that somehow Individuality cannot exist, like before Ataturk, we are only Persons.


Living in a Federal United Cyprus, is not such a bad thing, both sides have to respect the other and let the past go. It serves both interest to keep the peace and to learn to accomodate each others need...
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Re: What happens if??

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:20 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So we understand by your response that as usual you have no real answer, just leave things to luck and hope for the best....in short nothing will be done and the TC will rapidly become a second class citizens among GCs.


guts would be something like the Cypriots who picked themselves up and in a few short years from one third of the population homeless, to an EU member State; and now you are saying that these people cannot be rational Human Beings, just because if they are not "Turkish", they must be "Greek". real answer, there are Modern people, they live in the real world, they respect the Rule of Law, your assumption assumes that somehow Individuality cannot exist, like before Ataturk, we are only Persons.


So you are not really saying anything different trust us we will do whats right, well the cookie dont crumble that way we have zero trust for each other, what happens if you do not provide the services for TCs to understand and be dealt with as equal citizens. You say you have changed if what you have to offer is any indiciation of the future its fucking crap, I have been to your government offices they are a sham, the level of English or Turkish is minimal, the feeling of aggression and explosivness looks orchastrated, if this is your idea of modern people in the real world you need your senses tested, obviously being in the EU for the checks and balances does not work, what happens when the the TC is not able to get the services he deserves just like his GC neighbour and feels alienated?
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Re: What happens if??

Postby Kikapu » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:32 am

Viewpoint wrote:So we understand by your response that as usual you have no real answer, just leave things to luck and hope for the best....in short nothing will be done and the TC will rapidly become a second class citizens among GCs.


No, you don't understand shit, because what you are asking is not what happens in Federal country. If you live in the north state as most TC would do, then the TCs would have ZERO business to do anything with the government of the south state for anything. The north state is where they will conduct all their state business, which will be mainly in Turkish. If any TCs would choose to live in the south state, then those TCs would only deal with the south state and would have nothing to do with the north state. Same would be for the GCs other way around.

Federal Government offices will be located all over the island and would ONLY deal with Federal matters, which would have people working from across all ethnic groups, so that is your answer to your non question. :roll:
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