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[Kikapu]

Kikapoo you are such a shit head, My family and I have plenty of land both north and south thank you very much, we dont need any disputed land therefore you cannot be further from the truth and all you are doing is promoting GC propaganda that all TCs are benefiting from disputed land.

Yes, I forgot, that the VP family were the Rockefellers of Cyprus to have accrued so much land, specially when your parents were already in the UK in early 60's, since you were born there not too long after, so your parents did not have land all over Cyprus as you would want us to believe. If you are then going to tell me it was land that belong to your grandparents, then you also stated that your family were based in the south of Cyprus, so I doubt your grand parents had so much land in the south and north of Cyprus.

I never said all TCs. I said people like you!

The fact that you refer to ALL GC land in the north as "Disputed Land", only tells me you and your family are holding stolen GC land, but when it comes to "your land", in the north or the south, you do not claim those lands to be a disputed land also. How come?

So what you are putting forward is that the numbers do not warrant any preparartion you will not be catering for any TCs that decide to live in the south? and we do not need to do the same for GCs who move north, they can struggle with the Turkish language and feel like second class citizens just as we do today when we visit government offices in the south.

Have you ever heard the term "Supply & Demand"?

If there is a demand for Turkish speaking personnel in the south's state government institutions, then Turkish speaking individuals will be hired to meet the demand, whether it will be by Turkish Cypriots themselves or any other bi-lingual Turkish speaking individuals. Same will apply to the GCs who would choose to live in the north, so I don't know why you need to open this thread with full of bullshit when the solutions to meeting language challenges to be in the north or the south is so easy solve. You cannot use today's situation in the south regarding language problems (even if true, which I doubt) as an example of what it would be like in the future. For starters, you would not have any business going to the south's state government institutions for almost anything, except when you need to go to court for committing a crime in the south state, in which case, translators can be provided if needed. Is that so hard to understand. For you it must be, or else, it is ALL propaganda bullshit!

[repulsewarrior]

...there are three governing bodies. if we are clear on this vp, what makes you think that a FEDERAL GOVERNMENT would ignore a significant portion of its Citizenry. especially if there exists as well, at least two Cypriot Constituencies with self-representation?

[Viewpoint]

Everybody seems to be struggling with a very simple everyday issue of language even to the extent that some idiots think there will be no demand in the south nor the north, so we do not have to resolve it, how stupid can people be? what if the offices in the south discriminate against Turkish speakers? what will the do?

[Viewpoint]

Kikapoo you are such a shit head, My family and I have plenty of land both north and south thank you very much, we dont need any disputed land therefore you cannot be further from the truth and all you are doing is promoting GC propaganda that all TCs are benefiting from disputed land.

Yes, I forgot, that the VP family were the Rockefellers of Cyprus to have accrued so much land, specially when your parents were already in the UK in early 60's, since you were born there not too long after, so your parents did not have land all over Cyprus as you would want us to believe. If you are then going to tell me it was land that belong to your grandparents, then you also stated that your family were based in the south of Cyprus, so I doubt your grand parents had so much land in the south and north of Cyprus.

I never said all TCs. I said people like you!

The fact that you refer to ALL GC land in the north as "Disputed Land", only tells me you and your family are holding stolen GC land, but when it comes to "your land", in the north or the south, you do not claim those lands to be a disputed land also. How come?

So what you are putting forward is that the numbers do not warrant any preparartion you will not be catering for any TCs that decide to live in the south? and we do not need to do the same for GCs who move north, they can struggle with the Turkish language and feel like second class citizens just as we do today when we visit government offices in the south.

Have you ever heard the term "Supply & Demand"?

If there is a demand for Turkish speaking personnel in the south's state government institutions, then Turkish speaking individuals will be hired to meet the demand, whether it will be by Turkish Cypriots themselves or any other bi-lingual Turkish speaking individuals. Same will apply to the GCs who would choose to live in the north, so I don't know why you need to open this thread with full of bullshit when the solutions to meeting language challenges to be in the north or the south is so easy solve. You cannot use today's situation in the south regarding language problems (even if true, which I doubt) as an example of what it would be like in the future. For starters, you would not have any business going to the south's state government institutions for almost anything, except when you need to go to court for committing a crime in the south state, in which case, translators can be provided if needed. Is that so hard to understand. For you it must be, or else, it is ALL propaganda bullshit!

My mothers side are from the south and my father the north Im sure even you can work out how we have land in the south which is disputed due to GC placed barriers and land in the north which is not disputed as it has been in our family for generations.

As for your crappy supply and demand theory, if you have Turkish as an official language where are your EU checks and balances to make sure it is readily available in all government offices?

[repulsewarrior]

dude, how many languages do you speak? and what does someone care that lives no further than the fields around a village (and speaks one language), does he/she blame the urban dwellers for having more needs, and/or abilities?

what are you telling me, vp; you expect the Turkish Constituency, as a whole to be so resentful as to communicate only in Turkish because a Greek may be spiteful too? ...reh vp, small or big, pardon the pun, get real.

...and tell me, surely you will hang them from the balls (as you say); what if the offices in the north discriminate against Greek speakers? what will you do?

[Viewpoint]

dude, how many languages do you speak? and what does someone care that lives no further than the fields around a village (and speaks one language), does he/she blame the urban dwellers for having more needs, and/or abilities?

what are you telling me, vp; you expect the Turkish Constituency, as a whole to be so resentful as to communicate only in Turkish because a Greek may be spiteful too? ...reh vp, small or big, pardon the pun, get real.

...and tell me, surely you will hang them from the balls (as you say); what if the offices in the north discriminate against Greek speakers? what will you do?

You will need to be Trilingual to get such a job, thats how I wouıld guarantee that the all citizens that reside in the north state are treated equally, I would also go a step further and sack anyone who was complained about and found guilty of discriminating against anyone. All these posts and not one GC was brave enough to state the obvious thats clearly shows we do not have one anothers backs and that unificiaiton is a long way off and would break down very quickly as neither side really wants it on terms that would make the 2 states equal to each other.

[kimon07]

dude, how many languages do you speak? and what does someone care that lives no further than the fields around a village (and speaks one language), does he/she blame the urban dwellers for having more needs, and/or abilities?

what are you telling me, vp; you expect the Turkish Constituency, as a whole to be so resentful as to communicate only in Turkish because a Greek may be spiteful too? ...reh vp, small or big, pardon the pun, get real.

...and tell me, surely you will hang them from the balls (as you say); what if the offices in the north discriminate against Greek speakers? what will you do?

You will need to be Trilingual to get such a job, thats how I wouıld guarantee that the all citizens that reside in the north state are treated equally, I would also go a step further and sack anyone who was complained about and found guilty of discriminating against anyone. All these posts and not one GC was brave enough to state the obvious thats clearly shows we do not have one anothers backs and that unificiaiton is a long way off and would break down very quickly as neither side really wants it on terms that would make the 2 states equal to each other.

How many languages do the civil servants have to speak in the USA, Britain and Turkey?

[Viewpoint]

dude, how many languages do you speak? and what does someone care that lives no further than the fields around a village (and speaks one language), does he/she blame the urban dwellers for having more needs, and/or abilities?

what are you telling me, vp; you expect the Turkish Constituency, as a whole to be so resentful as to communicate only in Turkish because a Greek may be spiteful too? ...reh vp, small or big, pardon the pun, get real.

...and tell me, surely you will hang them from the balls (as you say); what if the offices in the north discriminate against Greek speakers? what will you do?

You will need to be Trilingual to get such a job, thats how I wouıld guarantee that the all citizens that reside in the north state are treated equally, I would also go a step further and sack anyone who was complained about and found guilty of discriminating against anyone. All these posts and not one GC was brave enough to state the obvious thats clearly shows we do not have one anothers backs and that unificiaiton is a long way off and would break down very quickly as neither side really wants it on terms that would make the 2 states equal to each other.

How many languages do the civil servants have to speak in the USA, Britain and Turkey?

How many official languages do they have?

[repulsewarrior]

if Cypriots put their mind to it, they can be the facilitators of social-exchange, in many more languages...

...and, as a population of many Constituencies, the reach to Global partners, competitively, is more attractive.

[kimon07]

dude, how many languages do you speak? and what does someone care that lives no further than the fields around a village (and speaks one language), does he/she blame the urban dwellers for having more needs, and/or abilities?

what are you telling me, vp; you expect the Turkish Constituency, as a whole to be so resentful as to communicate only in Turkish because a Greek may be spiteful too? ...reh vp, small or big, pardon the pun, get real.

...and tell me, surely you will hang them from the balls (as you say); what if the offices in the north discriminate against Greek speakers? what will you do?

You will need to be Trilingual to get such a job, thats how I wouıld guarantee that the all citizens that reside in the north state are treated equally, I would also go a step further and sack anyone who was complained about and found guilty of discriminating against anyone. All these posts and not one GC was brave enough to state the obvious thats clearly shows we do not have one anothers backs and that unificiaiton is a long way off and would break down very quickly as neither side really wants it on terms that would make the 2 states equal to each other.

How many languages do the civil servants have to speak in the USA, Britain and Turkey?

How many official languages do they have?

You mean they did NOT declare official the languages of EACH of their minorities? Not even of the Kurdish minority in Turkey which is about 20%? Shame on them.
And what about the Indian American in the USA? Shame on them.

By the way! When your refer to "official languages" of the RoC do you mean the ones recognized under the London-Zurich arrangements?