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why do you insult people when you post. do you think you win the argument. I think not. only succeed in making an ass of yourself. on top of that what you say has no value, zilch get it.

it really is very simple.

What do you mean by true democracy, are you happy with the true democracy the kurds have. one man one vote right. becasue thats what you are asking for right. well guess what your true democracy is really a fixed term dictatorship. It does not work in any country. you will find that there are abused and abusers in all of them. some will be on racial grounds other on political. so stop with this true democracy lark as it does not exists anywhere on the planet. and it certainlt will not exists in cyprus whilst the fascists have control on power in politics and the media. do something usefull will you and go make a cup of turkish coffee that may calm you down some, otherwise you is headin for a heart attack you hear.

That's the point of western democracy, it's fixed term and if the electorate don't like the current incumbent, then they can vote them out.

In the case of any sizable minority such as the TCs or the Kurds, they can in fact hold the balance of power in Cyprus and Turkey respectively if they actually understood and participated in the democratic process.

With a racist majority how is that possible prey explain?

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As for official languages goes, Switzerland has three (4 really) and there are never any problems people communicating with each other in different parts of the country, whether it is in government offices or at the local restaurant. You have no case as usual, but more pure propaganda. Take a hike![/quote]

Keep guessing, you havent got a clue.

As for the administering of all foreign languages will the Swiss be implementing it in a united Cyprus as well to make sure the GCs do not discriminate against TCs?[/quote]

I don't even know what hell you are talking about.

Perhaps if you didn't have racist propaganda in your brain, you might be able to talk sense.

Then again, the sun might just set in the East first while waiting on you to change.. [/quote]

You do not have the capacity to understand what I am talking about...I have stated this fact all along, you are so biased that you are blind your head being stuck deep inside the GCs arse.[/quote]

Make that up Cyprus's ass, which is far better than being up Turkey's ass as you have done, but then again, since you are a traitor to your Cypriot heritage, being up Turkey's ass is where your head belongs.

Explains why you reject True Democracy and Rule of Law!

If you wrote proper English in what it is you are trying to state, then I may have a better chance understanding you, but you are like someone who tries to lie when talking, with a very wishy washy story telling and making inaccurate statements in the hope that it becomes believable to the ignorant. You cannot be a Racist Fascist partitionist and expect to be telling the truth at the same time. That would be oxymoronic. Even a second rate propagandist like yourself should be able to see that....if you had a brain that is.

As stated before, if there is going to be a Federal north and south states, TCs living in the north state would have virtually nothing to do with the south state in any shape or form. The fact that thousands of TCs living in the illegal occupied north at present are able to get RoC IDs, Birth Certificates, Passports and other services problem free as far as language is concerned (or any other), only goes to show that you are just pissing into the wind. No wonder your feet are soaking wet.[/quote]

So if we cut through all the crap and insults basically what you are saying is that we do not have to cater for the minorities within our own states (as is the case in the south today) and that the official langugae can be reduced to one eg English?

[Me Ed]

why do you insult people when you post. do you think you win the argument. I think not. only succeed in making an ass of yourself. on top of that what you say has no value, zilch get it.

it really is very simple.

What do you mean by true democracy, are you happy with the true democracy the kurds have. one man one vote right. becasue thats what you are asking for right. well guess what your true democracy is really a fixed term dictatorship. It does not work in any country. you will find that there are abused and abusers in all of them. some will be on racial grounds other on political. so stop with this true democracy lark as it does not exists anywhere on the planet. and it certainlt will not exists in cyprus whilst the fascists have control on power in politics and the media. do something usefull will you and go make a cup of turkish coffee that may calm you down some, otherwise you is headin for a heart attack you hear.

That's the point of western democracy, it's fixed term and if the electorate don't like the current incumbent, then they can vote them out.

In the case of any sizable minority such as the TCs or the Kurds, they can in fact hold the balance of power in Cyprus and Turkey respectively if they actually understood and participated in the democratic process.

With a racist majority how is that possible prey explain?

As you are referring to Turkey, then if every Kurd decided to vote for AKPs nearest competitor, they will win the election hands down.

Therefore to win the election any political party will have to give major concessions to the Kurds to attract the Kurdish vote as the Turkish votes wil cancel each other out.

[Lordo]

me ed i don't think you fully understood what i said. in a five year dictatorship the people who vote for the party do not get any benefit for their vote. they only get the scraps. the party in power is only there whilst it serves the purposes of their masters.


in a divided society like cyprus it is even worse. the minorities get the scraps of the scraps. get it. cyprus will never have a five year dictatorship. the only way is to have two five year dictatorships. that way we all get the scraps. there are no scraps of scraps involved.
i hope this clarifies the situation a little better.

when it comes to turkey how can you ask people to join parties who have been oppressing them for decades. unless of course you have no idea what the turkish political system is no matter what kurds do they will never have a say in their lives. the only way is a bbf just like cyprus. you know it makes sense.

[Kikapu]

So if we cut through all the crap and insults basically what you are saying is that we do not have to cater for the minorities within our own states (as is the case in the south today) and that the official langugae can be reduced to one eg English?

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Had you comprehended the written English language better, you wouldn't have make such silly assumptions.

[Me Ed]

me ed i don't think you fully understood what i said. in a five year dictatorship the people who vote for the party do not get any benefit for their vote. they only get the scraps. the party in power is only there whilst it serves the purposes of their masters.


in a divided society like cyprus it is even worse. the minorities get the scraps of the scraps. get it. cyprus will never have a five year dictatorship. the only way is to have two five year dictatorships. that way we all get the scraps. there are no scraps of scraps involved.
i hope this clarifies the situation a little better.

when it comes to turkey how can you ask people to join parties who have been oppressing them for decades. unless of course you have no idea what the turkish political system is no matter what kurds do they will never have a say in their lives. the only way is a bbf just like cyprus. you know it makes sense.

Well wasn't it Abraham Lincoln who said "you can't please all of the people all of the time"?

- and look what happened to him!

I'm all for a BBF in Cyprus, but not one that promotes apaertied and institutionalised racism. People should be allowed to live wherever they want to live and be able to vote and apply for public sector jobs irrespective of their race.

[Kikapu]

why do you insult people when you post. do you think you win the argument. I think not. only succeed in making an ass of yourself. on top of that what you say has no value, zilch get it.

it really is very simple.

What do you mean by true democracy, are you happy with the true democracy the kurds have. one man one vote right. becasue thats what you are asking for right. well guess what your true democracy is really a fixed term dictatorship. It does not work in any country. you will find that there are abused and abusers in all of them. some will be on racial grounds other on political. so stop with this true democracy lark as it does not exists anywhere on the planet. and it certainlt will not exists in cyprus whilst the fascists have control on power in politics and the media. do something usefull will you and go make a cup of turkish coffee that may calm you down some, otherwise you is headin for a heart attack you hear.

I respect those who show respect towards me, otherwise, they end up wearing their asses as a hat!

Since you pretend not to know what True Democracy means, just so that for you not to criticize Turkey with their so called "Democracy", then let me just say, True Democracy in the form of EU Principles, which Turkey does not practice. The fact that you have supported the failed Annan Plan in 2004, only goes to show what Democracy means to you, which is somewhere between what the Blacks had in the USA before the 70's to what the Blacks had in South Africa before the 90's. This is your idea of Democracy to the vast majority of Cypriots. I'm surprised you did not also ask for slavery to be included in the AP, since you had already accepted Apartheid, Racism, Fascism, Democratic and Human Rights violations. I guess maybe you are not a such bad guy after all!

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So if we cut through all the crap and insults basically what you are saying is that we do not have to cater for the minorities within our own states (as is the case in the south today) and that the official langugae can be reduced to one eg English?

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Had you comprehended the written English language better, you wouldn't have make such silly assumptions.

Your pathetic, you have absolutely no substance and continue with your usual barrage of personal insults and abuse the traits of a coward and traitor.

[ZoC]

So if we cut through all the crap and insults basically what you are saying is that we do not have to cater for the minorities within our own states (as is the case in the south today) and that the official langugae can be reduced to one eg English?

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Had you comprehended the written English language better, you wouldn't have make such silly assumptions.

Your pathetic, you have absolutely no substance and continue with your usual barrage of personal insults and abuse the traits of a coward and traitor.

not sure where kikapu made a personal insult; he simply questioned ur command of english and for making assumption.

u on the other hand... i've highlighted ur personal insults above in red...

u prick.

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why do you insult people when you post. do you think you win the argument. I think not. only succeed in making an ass of yourself. on top of that what you say has no value, zilch get it.

it really is very simple.

What do you mean by true democracy, are you happy with the true democracy the kurds have. one man one vote right. becasue thats what you are asking for right. well guess what your true democracy is really a fixed term dictatorship. It does not work in any country. you will find that there are abused and abusers in all of them. some will be on racial grounds other on political. so stop with this true democracy lark as it does not exists anywhere on the planet. and it certainlt will not exists in cyprus whilst the fascists have control on power in politics and the media. do something usefull will you and go make a cup of turkish coffee that may calm you down some, otherwise you is headin for a heart attack you hear.

That's the point of western democracy, it's fixed term and if the electorate don't like the current incumbent, then they can vote them out.

In the case of any sizable minority such as the TCs or the Kurds, they can in fact hold the balance of power in Cyprus and Turkey respectively if they actually understood and participated in the democratic process.

With a racist majority how is that possible prey explain?

As you are referring to Turkey, then if every Kurd decided to vote for AKPs nearest competitor, they will win the election hands down.

Therefore to win the election any political party will have to give major concessions to the Kurds to attract the Kurdish vote as the Turkish votes wil cancel each other out.

With a revenge seeking racist GC majority we would not stand a chance to getting a look in at running our country we would be left at the mercy of any GC party ideology that would place us in great danger, 80% is a far bigger sword than 20% and can easily be manipulted to the detrement of a given people of specific ethnic origins, the hate of anything Turkish displayed by GCs is alarming revealing exactly the contempt and mental status of the majority of GCs.