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The Enigmatic Mind.

Postby Schnauzer » Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:31 pm

I was recently handed a rather extraordinary 'Document' which apparently came into the possession of an elderly 'Fisherman' who found it sealed in a 'Capsule' which he retrieved from an area far out in the 'Mediterranean Sea', it was obviously quite old but the seals of the 'Capsule' had withstood the rigours of exposure to 'Sea Water' and the 'Hand Written' pages within it were still quite legible and intact.

Initially, I considered the contents to be of little importance, they were written in the 'German Language' and as I began to translate them, it suddenly occurred to me that they might be connected to (or even an account of) the 'Thoughts' of 'Adolf Eichmann', indeed, they may even have been written by him and consigned to the deep by some member of his family (or associate) at the same time as his 'Ashes' were scattered after 'Cremation', well outside of the 'Territorial Waters' of ANY nation, thereby ensuring (as with Osama bin Laden) that no 'Memorial' would ever be possible.

A futile attempt to eradicate the existence of a person perhaps, surely someone somewhere MUST have loved (or still loves) him (or his memory) and ultimately, according to the 'Sciences, we will ALL suffer precisely the same fate, in fact, if I may be so bold, I would like to submit a small and (since I am currently under the protection of the 'Orientals') 'Unworthy' contribution to the 'Tome of Adages and Profound Sayings', in the certain conviction that such an expression cannot be disputed :- "Love me or Hate me, we will spend 'Eternity' together".

But I digress, therefore, back to the 'Writings' and the significance of them, I HAVE studied them quite closely and whilst doing so, have attempted to 'Form a Link' between them and the 'Trial' of 'Adolf Eichmann', I am quite confident that the writings ARE the handiwork of the 'Gentleman' in question and would like to open this thread (which I feel will be of some interest) by introducing you all to the initial part, which I consider to be THE most important.

Thereafter, it is my intention to submit (in some semblance of 'Poetic' illustration') an 'In Depth' account of the 'Trial', the outcome and, far more particularly, the 'Mindsets' of the 'Accused', 'Accusers' and those affected by the proceedings, up to the time of 'Adolf Eichmann's Execution'.

With your permission 'Folks' :-

" Es war nur ein Teil eines alten Spiels, die Vernichtung der Juden, Ausrottung sie auszurotten, mit ihnen umzugehen, wie wir wählen, ich bin ein Mensch, und es mögen oder nicht, ich hatte einige Arbeit zu tun, was getan werden musste und erhielt den Befehl zu tun auf Kosten der Juden.

Ich war es, das war diese Arbeit zu tun gegeben und ich habe immer befolgt meine Befehle, habe ich meinen Wehrdienst und als Offizier, hatte ich die Verantwortung für die Handlungen der anderen Offiziere überlegen mir zu nehmen.

Ich habe nicht gefragt, wie ich die Arbeit zu tun war, ich tat, wie mir gesagt wurde und ich es immer genossen gehorchen Bestellungen, unabhängig von dem, was sie waren, waren meine eigenen Gefühle und Meinungen ohne Belang".

There is much more yet. :wink:
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Re: The Enigmatic Mind.

Postby theodosia » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:05 pm

well yes he did try to eradicate the jews, though i somehow doubt that been led to the gas chambers was a "game" to those who died in a horrible way.
Have you had the document authenticed?
and why in german when most will not to able to read/understand german so therefore won't be able to reply? :?
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Postby Schnauzer » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:08 pm

theodosia wrote:well yes he did try to eradicate the jews, though i somehow doubt that been led to the gas chambers was a "game" to those who died in a horrible way.
Have you had the document authenticed?
and why in german when most will not to able to read/understand german so therefore won't be able to reply? :?


As I stated, the initial part is presented in 'German' since that is how it is written, I further indicated that my intention is to translate and present the content in an alternative form (which will be in the 'English' language) whilst seeking to probe the 'Mindsets' of those who feature in the proceedings.

I am currently reading some material which may furnish me with a little 'Grist for the Mill', carefully avoiding ANY such material which may indicate 'Bias' to either the 'Accused' or 'Accusers', quite a difficult enterprise since there seems to be NOTHING written which might stimulate the minds of those who might wonder HOW a 'Human Being' can conduct Him/Herself in the manner in which we are informed 'Adolf Eichmann' did.

Authentication of the 'Document' is actually of little consequence, the opening 'Paragraphs' speak volumes about the 'Mindset' of 'Adolf Eichmann', my intention is to probe into it's origins, not as an 'Author' who merely relies upon 'Evidence' (whether 'Biased' or not) but as a person who regards the whole process which produces such an 'Enigmatic Mind' as 'Adolf Eichmann' must have had, as yet another 'Enigma'.

Hopefully, I will be able to complete the task I have set myself without attracting too much controversy, I do feel capable of presenting an article of some interest and do crave your indulgence whilst I attempt to do so, I KNOW you to be a 'Patient' person, such a 'Trait' is evidenced by the fact that you have stated that you waited 'Eighteen Years' for your first 'Kiss' :lol:
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Re: The Enigmatic Mind.

Postby theodosia » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:24 pm

I will be looking forward to reading the rest when you post it, as for the evil man whose name should never be uttered except with contempt i hope he rots in hell.
yes i know, i know what you are going to say....to long to write it all and really to lazy to hit the keyboards :D
hmm well 18 was a long wait for a kiss, but at least i did wait to kiss the man i did love at that time and was with him 5 years. :)
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Re: The Enigmatic Mind.

Postby CBBB » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:41 pm

theodosia wrote:I will be looking forward to reading the rest when you post it, as for the evil man whose name should never be uttered except with contempt i hope he rots in hell.
yes i know, i know what you are going to say....to long to write it all and really to lazy to hit the keyboards :D
hmm well 18 was a long wait for a kiss, but at least i did wait to kiss the man i did love at that time and was with him 5 years. :)


Naughty Theodosia!!! We don't reply to Schnauzer's posts, it just encourages him to post more crap!
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Postby Schnauzer » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:11 pm

theodosia wrote:I will be looking forward to reading the rest when you post it, as for the evil man whose name should never be uttered except with contempt i hope he rots in hell.
yes i know, i know what you are going to say....to long to write it all and really to lazy to hit the keyboards :D
hmm well 18 was a long wait for a kiss, but at least i did wait to kiss the man i did love at that time and was with him 5 years. :)


Now Now Theodosia, one MUST detach oneself from contemptuous feelings since I am not about to lend 'Credibility' to the actions of either 'Adolf Eichmann' (who was found guilty of his awful crimes and suffered 'Death by Hanging' for them) or those who saw fit to 'Cremate' his remains and scatter his ashes o'er the 'Mediterranean Sea' (which could be seen by some as an unnecessary act of 'Vengeance' on the part of his 'Judges').

Another 'Concern' to me is that my efforts may suffer some misconstruction and I MUST emphasise that the purpose of my enterprise should be regarded as purely a matter of interest in the title of this thread, in NO WAY will they be indicative of my own views. (kindly bear such in mind).

Laziness is certainly NOT a characteristic which one might ascribe to me, I am often 'Out of Touch' for considerable periods and therefore have little time on my hands, however, within the hour I will submit my interpretation of the first 'Paragraphs' and dedicate them to YOU (and your fist 'Kiss'). :wink:
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Re: The Enigmatic Mind.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:15 pm

It is a CF tradition to allow Schnauzer free reign to unfold his tales trickle by trickle and to enjoy them as little tasters - to savour with a good claret.
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Re: The Enigmatic Mind.

Postby Schnauzer » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:22 pm

CBBB wrote:
theodosia wrote:I will be looking forward to reading the rest when you post it, as for the evil man whose name should never be uttered except with contempt i hope he rots in hell.
yes i know, i know what you are going to say....to long to write it all and really to lazy to hit the keyboards :D
hmm well 18 was a long wait for a kiss, but at least i did wait to kiss the man i did love at that time and was with him 5 years. :)


Naughty Theodosia!!! We don't reply to Schnauzer's posts, it just encourages him to post more crap!


I see from your 'Avatar' that you have now reached something of a 'Pinnacle' in your career by becoming a 'Leader', such title bestowed upon the likes of YOU is nothing short of an 'Insult' to it's implication.

Your 'Leadership' qualities are non-existent (imho) and the ONLY time you might attain the status of being in 'The Lead' would occur if ever 'I' came across you in an environment where respectable and intelligent folk might congregate, for surely, I would put you out of the premises with MY 'Toe' behind you, (as 'Jimmy Light' might say). :lol:
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Re: The Enigmatic Mind.

Postby theodosia » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:29 pm

CBBB wrote:
theodosia wrote:I will be looking forward to reading the rest when you post it, as for the evil man whose name should never be uttered except with contempt i hope he rots in hell.
yes i know, i know what you are going to say....to long to write it all and really to lazy to hit the keyboards :D
hmm well 18 was a long wait for a kiss, but at least i did wait to kiss the man i did love at that time and was with him 5 years. :)


Naughty Theodosia!!! We don't reply to Schnauzer's posts, it just encourages him to post more crap!

NOBODY told me this...that i was naughty :D :lol: we don't reply to his posts? hmm we need a proper induction on this cf...
but what do u think though of his post, do u think its true?
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Re: The Enigmatic Mind.

Postby theodosia » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:33 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
theodosia wrote:I will be looking forward to reading the rest when you post it, as for the evil man whose name should never be uttered except with contempt i hope he rots in hell.
yes i know, i know what you are going to say....to long to write it all and really to lazy to hit the keyboards :D
hmm well 18 was a long wait for a kiss, but at least i did wait to kiss the man i did love at that time and was with him 5 years. :)


Now Now Theodosia, one MUST detach oneself from contemptuous feelings since I am not about to lend 'Credibility' to the actions of either 'Adolf Eichmann' (who was found guilty of his awful crimes and suffered 'Death by Hanging' for them) or those who saw fit to 'Cremate' his remains and scatter his ashes o'er the 'Mediterranean Sea' (which could be seen by some as an unnecessary act of 'Vengeance' on the part of his 'Judges').

Another 'Concern' to me is that my efforts may suffer some misconstruction and I MUST emphasise that the purpose of my enterprise should be regarded as purely a matter of interest in the title of this thread, in NO WAY will they be indicative of my own views. (kindly bear such in mind).

Laziness is certainly NOT a characteristic which one might ascribe to me, I am often 'Out of Touch' for considerable periods and therefore have little time on my hands, however, within the hour I will submit my interpretation of the first 'Paragraphs' and dedicate them to YOU (and your fist 'Kiss'). :wink:

ok, i get it...but sometimes it is hard not be passionate about it , but yes i see that you are right about this. I will then try to keep an open mind about it for now. :|
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