theodosia wrote:I know i will be slated for this post, and it will get locked. But for what it is worth, i was thinking if we all could think of something nice to say each other.
A lot of angry words in various topics, about the Greeks and the Turks. I have to admit that i have sometimes agreed with some of the stuff that has been posted on this site ( they are just my thoughts and feelings) But i really can't say that every Turk is rotten to the core, just as i would defend anyone saying it about the Greeks.
i do understand most of it is political, but i have noticed it gets very personal to the point of bulling ( from both sides)
so was just thinking if we could say something positive about each other?
What the Turks post in this forum is to be expected: Cyprus was never Greek blah, blah, blah...so we have a right to divide the country. Greeks were committing genocide in 1974 blah, blah, blah...so we had to ethnically-cleanse the north and create a "turco republic". We Turks never committed genocide blah, blah, blah...we were the victims of genocide by zee evil Griks. But in all honesty this is expected by them. And the reality is that we Greeks and Turks have been "enemies" for so long that it's become canon to an extent. When it comes to Cyprus, the Aegean and even the Ottoman Empire, we're never going to agree. Turks have a policy of white-washing Ottoman oppression and portraying themselves as the actual victims of an empire they controlled ffs! Does this make sense to you? And it's this ultra-nationalistic dogma they really believe they were victims in Cyprus as well, refusing to accept that from the 1950's until 1974 they did everything possible to create discord in Cyprus so as to realise the Turkish goal of taksim and division. In other words, they created the so-called inter-ethnic conflicts so as to divide the island. It's easy for yourself to say "why do Greeks and Turks hate each other" as if the Greeks, who made up the 88% in 1960, where somehow just as guilty as the 12% foreign minority who wanted to divide the island. So why should the Greek side be expected to take all the blame. So what you get in here is to remind the Turks their argument is total shit. Because none of them will ever admit their bastardy, that they created the inter-communal violence so to realise taksim and division. And that is what the Greek side is doing, reminding the Turks, as well as the British, their part in the sad events of 1974. Bottom line is if both the Turks and British own up to their part, that they created the events that led to the division of the island, then maybe we can actually speak to each other in a honest way in here. But no of the will admit it. Instead they blame everything on Hellenism, actually the indigenous majority's right to self-determination whicn they continue to demonize. They will argue that Cyprus was never Greek and therefore the indigenous majority had "no right" to the whole island therefore division was acceptable. And this is their irony/hypocrisy in this forum, that though they refer to the Greek-Cypriots as Greeks but yet accuse them of not really Greek and therefore they're only entitled to the southern part of the island. This makes no sense. Not even to Turks. But they'll still argue it. They have to. The Turks have to justify that they're not invader-settlers but "indigenous" by arguing that the Greeks aren't even indigenous, even though they've been on the island for over 3500 years. Does this hypothesis make no sense to you? Of course it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense to the Turks either but it's still good enough for them, if you get what I mean. Anyway, the point is that maybe you should understand the Greek-Cypriot point of view, the indigenous absolute majority being denied their right to self-determination and then having almost half their nation occupied with the support of the Britian. So maybe understand the hostility and the sense of defiance by the Greek side towards the British supported Turkish occupation of the north rather than argue that the Greeks are just as much to blame. But it's expected. You are an outsider so you can make the insinuation that the Greek side is over-reacting, sorry to say. You can't really expect the Greeks to say "yeah, we're just to blame as they are so let's get along" when the Turks are not only illegally occupying the north but have also made it clear they're not going anywhere. You really need to understand the animosity, that the Turks do occupy 37% of a nation, and in this forum none of them admit to the obvious rather just splatter their nationalistic bs in support of the occupation.
And that's the bottom line.
