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by **Grizos Katos** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:03 am

Well I never thought I could agree with Berlusconi, and he could be embarking on popularism with this outburst, but he does have a point.

Cyprus should worry about following in Greece's path. For Greece, it is more than a Global Crisis. It's economy is in an unrecoverable position for several decades. Cyprus can still turn things around but only if it does not opt for any ECB bail outs and cuts itself loose from this hegemony!

Talking about this is very disadvantageous to those who disagree and very convenient I might add. I guarantee that no matter what anyone talks about it or not, it will not sway foreign investment who are abandoning Cyprus in huge numbers.

Yes I know Omirou said this, and a couple of posters jumped on those remarks, but nothing can be further from the truth. The comments he lambasted were from non other than Andros Kyprianou, and this respectable individual makes a very valid point, lest we Cypriots get put through the same Troika induced recession as in Greece.

http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2 ... pe=article

by **cyprusgrump** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:45 am

At the June summit, François Hollande, Mario Monti and Spain's Mariano Rajoy faced down Angela Merkel and got her to agree that next to structural budget cuts a big dollop of Keynesian stimulus is needed to get the eurozone moving again. Then came Draghi's "bazooka" and Germany's ratification of the European stability mechanism (ESM) with €700bn-worth of funds, €190bn courtesy of the German taxpayer.

As a result, the management of the debt crisis and the "economic governance" of the eurozone are now off the hands of national governments – including the one in Berlin. They are in the hands of three unelected officials: the bosses of the ECB, the ESM and the European commission. The European parliament has been sidelined. As has the council.

From here.

by **forgotten** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:11 pm

well the mistake is that we put so much different economies under the umbrella of unified economy ,which devastated the mid economies of europe.i believe that we must get away out of the ship of euro as the dnt sustem will make cyprus economical system perish and the companies that are on the island dissapear

by **wyoming cowboy** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:41 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
At the June summit, François Hollande, Mario Monti and Spain's Mariano Rajoy faced down Angela Merkel and got her to agree that next to structural budget cuts a big dollop of Keynesian stimulus is needed to get the eurozone moving again. Then came Draghi's "bazooka" and Germany's ratification of the European stability mechanism (ESM) with €700bn-worth of funds, €190bn courtesy of the German taxpayer.

As a result, the management of the debt crisis and the "economic governance" of the eurozone are now off the hands of national governments – including the one in Berlin. They are in the hands of three unelected officials: the bosses of the ECB, the ESM and the European commission. The European parliament has been sidelined. As has the council.

hence the slogan "More Europe"...isnt all this about integrating all the eu countries into a closer union then before, and it slowly appears it is happening.

From here.

hence the slogan "More Europe"...isnt all this about integrating all the eu countries into a closer union then before, and it slowly appears it is happening. And now that keynesian stimulus is slowly being dealt, economic recovery may be just around the corner.

by **cyprusgrump** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:37 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
At the June summit, François Hollande, Mario Monti and Spain's Mariano Rajoy faced down Angela Merkel and got her to agree that next to structural budget cuts a big dollop of Keynesian stimulus is needed to get the eurozone moving again. Then came Draghi's "bazooka" and Germany's ratification of the European stability mechanism (ESM) with €700bn-worth of funds, €190bn courtesy of the German taxpayer.

As a result, the management of the debt crisis and the "economic governance" of the eurozone are now off the hands of national governments – including the one in Berlin. They are in the hands of three unelected officials: the bosses of the ECB, the ESM and the European commission. The European parliament has been sidelined. As has the council.

hence the slogan "More Europe"...isnt all this about integrating all the eu countries into a closer union then before, and it slowly appears it is happening.

From here.

hence the slogan "More Europe"...isnt all this about integrating all the eu countries into a closer union then before, and it slowly appears it is happening. And now that keynesian stimulus is slowly being dealt, economic recovery may be just around the corner.

It is about forcing a federal state on the citizens of the member states.

Given the incompetence they've shown so far I suspect economic recovery is further away than ever - certainly not 'just around the corner'....

by **georgios100** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:27 pm

Cyprus must stay in the Eurozone to enjoy the fruits of a team who believe in it.

Countries that don't believe in team work must leave. These countries are:
1. Britain.
2. Germany
3. Austria
4. Finland
5. Holland
6. Slovenia.

The remaining Eurozone countries will exist as one. Eurobonds to be used for all loans at the same interest rate.
Stiff tariffs to be implemented to the 6 non team players mentioned above. Team play to include one defense force for all.
In essence, create the US of Europe but get rid of the bugs and the unwilling.

This is the future.

by **kurupetos** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:29 pm

georgios100 wrote:Cyprus must stay in the Eurozone to enjoy the fruits of a team who believe in it.

Countries that don't believe in team work must leave. These countries are:
1. Britain.
2. Germany
3. Austria
4. Finland
5. Holland
6. Slovenia.

The remaining Eurozone countries will exist as one. Eurobonds to be used for all loans at the same interest rate.
Stiff tariffs to be implemented to the 6 non team players mentioned above. Team play to include one defense force for all.
In essence, create the US of Europe but get rid of the bugs and the unwilling.

This is the future.

UK was never part of the Eurozone. :roll:

by **cyprusgrump** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:45 pm

georgios100 wrote:Cyprus must stay in the Eurozone to enjoy the fruits of a team who believe in it.

Countries that don't believe in team work must leave. These countries are:
1. Britain.
2. Germany
3. Austria
4. Finland
5. Holland
6. Slovenia.

The remaining Eurozone countries will exist as one. Eurobonds to be used for all loans at the same interest rate.
Stiff tariffs to be implemented to the 6 non team players mentioned above. Team play to include one defense force for all.
In essence, create the US of Europe but get rid of the bugs and the unwilling.

This is the future.

In your version of the future all Eurozone countries must give up their sovereignty and agree to be ruled by the unelected elite in Brussels...

I think not. :roll:

by **Get Real!** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:04 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:In your version of the future all Eurozone countries must give up their sovereignty and agree to be ruled by the unelected elite in Brussels...

I think not.

Ruled by the likes of Strauss Kahn! :roll:

by **cyprusgrump** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:34 pm

Get Real! wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:In your version of the future all Eurozone countries must give up their sovereignty and agree to be ruled by the unelected elite in Brussels...

I think not.

Ruled by the likes of Strauss Kahn!

Indeed!

They can't even decide where the parliament should be based, not to mention being unable to get their accounts signed off for god knows how many years... :roll:

Why anybody would think it would be a good idea to give them more power or control the army is completely beyond me... :shock: