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[Jerry]

Could this be the end of the road for the EU's aspiration to join Turkey? Will the ROC now lose its leverage over the invader?
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-292942- ... years.html

[B25]

This might give us even more leaverage, since any investors will start getting the jitters and start to pull out their funds.
Turkey survives on hot money, well it may not be so hot in the near future.
The EU does not need Turkey pure and simple. Turkeys 'might' comes from its money and US/UK support, get rid of the money the US support and she is a nothing.

[barouti]

Could this be the end of the road for the EU's aspiration to join Turkey? Will the ROC now lose its leverage over the invader?
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-292942- ... years.html

EU's aspiration to join Turkey??? It's actually the other way around.

It's obvious to all accept to what it seems to be the British, that Turkey will never be allowed in the EU. Turkey has being trying to get into the Club for the last fifty years and the "accession process" will go on for another fifty years. As for Cyprus, cut the bs limey, you Brits officially support the division of the island and will continue to do so. Even if Turkey becoming an EU member was actually realistic they would manouver in a way that they would "promise" to end their occupation only once they did become members. And we all know the Turks have NO intentions of doing this on their own accord. Don't forget when Turkey became a candidate nation they signed a piece of paper they would recongise RoC and eight years later they still refuse to. Which is part of their maximalist policy of saying yes and signing whatever when they don't really mean it. And they do this with the full backing of you British, who not only continuously support them but also advise them to say "yes" but not to mean it.

It's just unbelievable how the limeys in this forum pretend to be concerned about Cyprus but do not 1) admit to Britian's participation of the sad events of 1974, and 2)or condemn Britian's current pro-Turkish and pro-division policy in Cyprus. What I'm saying is not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact. It's been documented. It's part of the UK"s current policy. So why the denial? Oh, that's right, it's due to the British delusion they are the perennial good guys even when it's clear they've always been in cahoots with the dark side. Because of course! You Brits "civilized" the savages! Wake up! This isn't 1912 but 2012. Stop living in the past. The British Empire no longer exists. The same applies to the Turks, the Ottoman Empire is no more and nor will it be revived.

But despite all the British populist rhetoric of holding a referendum regarding continuing EU membership, yeah sure. The UK outside of the EU will be a nothing power. Being in the EU gives you a voice albeit one that gets ignored. But just imagine the UK outside of the EU, you will be nothing more than another Norway. So accept it. The UK will remain in the EU and Turkey will never get in.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Could this be the end of the road for the EU's aspiration to join Turkey? Will the ROC now lose its leverage over the invader?
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-292942- ... years.html

EU's aspiration to join Turkey??? It's actually the other way around.

It's obvious to all accept to what it seems to be the British, that Turkey will never be allowed in the EU. Turkey has being trying to get into the Club for the last fifty years and the "accession process" will go on for another fifty years. As for Cyprus, cut the bs limey, you Brits officially support the division of the island and will continue to do so. Even if Turkey becoming an EU member was actually realistic they would manouver in a way that they would "promise" to end their occupation only once they did become members. And we all know the Turks have NO intentions of doing this on their own accord. Don't forget when Turkey became a candidate nation they signed a piece of paper they would recongise RoC and eight years later they still refuse to. Which is part of their maximalist policy of saying yes and signing whatever when they don't really mean it. And they do this with the full backing of you British, who not only continuously support them but also advise them to say "yes" but not to mean it.

It's just unbelievable how the limeys in this forum pretend to be concerned about Cyprus but do not 1) admit to Britian's participation of the sad events of 1974, and 2)or condemn Britian's current pro-Turkish and pro-division policy in Cyprus. What I'm saying is not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact. It's been documented. It's part of the UK"s current policy. So why the denial? Oh, that's right, it's due to the British delusion they are the perennial good guys even when it's clear they've always been in cahoots with the dark side. Because of course! You Brits "civilized" the savages! Wake up! This isn't 1912 but 2012. Stop living in the past. The British Empire no longer exists. The same applies to the Turks, the Ottoman Empire is no more and nor will it be revived.

But despite all the British populist rhetoric of holding a referendum regarding continuing EU membership, yeah sure. The UK outside of the EU will be a nothing power. Being in the EU gives you a voice albeit one that gets ignored. But just imagine the UK outside of the EU, you will be nothing more than another Norway. So accept it. The UK will remain in the EU and Turkey will never get in.

Good post.

[Lordo]

i get a feeling turkey no longer wants to join this bankrupt entity with aging population which will need their pension paid by the younger generation.

turkey is better off outside just trading as she does now. she is doing well thank you very much.

so much for when in eu cyprus will get a better deal. now how true was that little promise

as a matter of interest who builds the TemSA busses used in nicosia. just wondering.

[barouti]

Like a typical Turk, a lot of nationalstic blah-blah-blah and little sense and logic.

Turks want in the European Union. As I've already posted before, you want in so you can finally feel "European". Tell me Lordo, do you consider Turks Europeans or Middle-Easterns. Just to pre-empt you, forget about Greece and Cyprus and how Turkey is more European than us, this is about Turkey. So what do you consider Turks? It can only be one or the other. We both know you want everyone to consider you as Euros. And that's why will persist with your EU candidacy. At least it gives you the satisfaction that you're being considered as "European". Point is you're not about to tell the EU to stuff off even though they doing everthing to make you. What Turkey is the Mexico of the EU. You have a large poor and cheap labour force, hence why there is so much investment and industry is Turkey. To give an idea of the reality, the minimum wage in supa-dupa economic powerhouse Turkey is around €200 a month. Compare this to "bankrupt" Greece with the Troika insisting on 20$ reduction, the minimum wage is €600. Yes, it's still three times higher. And mind you, a substantial number of Turks work for less than the minimum wage. You have to keep your proletarians working for peanuts because if standards and wages rise you're going to see a lot of those industries close.

[Lordo]

baroutui baby turkey just put on hold all the negotiations does that show they want to join. even if they wanted they will not be ready for it for another decade. thankfully we already know what a bankrupt organisation it is. turkey has been in the customs union and is doing well out of it no need to join and be bankrupted with them.

greece is bankrupt. you cant just compare earnings, you have to look at cost of living. i have not seen that many turks going hungry but boyt is there greeks going hungry today.

the biggest and the richest economy on earth china a worker gets paid 20 dolars a week. the usa there are 50 million people below poverty wage hungry today.

the turks are doing fine and the economy gets stronger every day.

[Kikapu]

baroutui baby turkey just put on hold all the negotiations does that show they want to join. even if they wanted they will not be ready for it for another decade. thankfully we already know what a bankrupt organisation it is. turkey has been in the customs union and is doing well out of it no need to join and be bankrupted with them.

greece is bankrupt. you cant just compare earnings, you have to look at cost of living. i have not seen that many turks going hungry but boyt is there greeks going hungry today.

the biggest and the richest economy on earth china a worker gets paid 20 dolars a week. the usa there are 50 million people below poverty wage hungry today.

the turks are doing fine and the economy gets stronger every day.

Funny thing is, the poverty line in the USA is way above the national average earners in Turkey!

[Lordo]

baroutui baby turkey just put on hold all the negotiations does that show they want to join. even if they wanted they will not be ready for it for another decade. thankfully we already know what a bankrupt organisation it is. turkey has been in the customs union and is doing well out of it no need to join and be bankrupted with them.

greece is bankrupt. you cant just compare earnings, you have to look at cost of living. i have not seen that many turks going hungry but boyt is there greeks going hungry today.

the biggest and the richest economy on earth china a worker gets paid 20 dolars a week. the usa there are 50 million people below poverty wage hungry today.

the turks are doing fine and the economy gets stronger every day.

Funny thing is, the poverty line in the USA is way above the national average earners in Turkey!

you realy need a lesson in economy my friend. have a look at spending against earning and you will see that there are more people hungry in usa then turkey even when you consider the population size.

[barouti]

baroutui baby turkey just put on hold all the negotiations does that show they want to join. even if they wanted they will not be ready for it for another decade. thankfully we already know what a bankrupt organisation it is. turkey has been in the customs union and is doing well out of it no need to join and be bankrupted with them.

greece is bankrupt. you cant just compare earnings, you have to look at cost of living. i have not seen that many turks going hungry but boyt is there greeks going hungry today.

the biggest and the richest economy on earth china a worker gets paid 20 dolars a week. the usa there are 50 million people below poverty wage hungry today.

the turks are doing fine and the economy gets stronger every day.

Lordo darling, Turkey put the negotiatons on hold only for the duration of the Cyprus EU presidency so Tayyip wouldn't have to deal with a country you birds refuse to recognise.

As for supa-dupa economic powerhouse Turkey, well, from a Turkish source:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=349