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Postby ZoC » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:10 pm

lying by the pool here in paphos, i've been reading a fascinating book on the turin shroud by ian wilson.... cyprus is mentioned often...

as part of his research the author travelled here, to examine evidence that might confirm whether the ancient 'image of edessa' is one and the same as the turin shroud... sadly his research has been stifled by the turkish occupation in the northern part of the island.

the image of edessa - a cloth purported to contain an image of jesus - is held in high esteem by the eastern orthodox church. its existence has been part of the historic record since the time of the crucifixion right up to the sacking of constantinople in around 1200 AD by the french crusaders - after which all records of it ceased...

a century and a half later this same cloth (it's believed) re-emerged in france... and became known as the turin shroud.

sadly, many records and depictions of the 'image of edessa' - which could now have shed light on whether it was indeed the shroud - were destroyed during the muslim conquest of asia minor... but even more sadly, this destruction and neglect continues to this day in cyprus.

i quote from wilson...

"and in turkish held northern cyprus far too many churches with priceless ancient depictions of the 'image of edessa' continue to be abandoned and neglected, with access either prohibited or hampered by excessive bureaucracy."

wot a terrible crime against science and humanity's understanding of potentially the most significant historic artefact in the world.
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Re: image of edessa

Postby B25 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:16 pm

Well, did you epect any other behaviour of the latriners??? Dogs, stinking dogs.
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Re: image of edessa

Postby ZoC » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:23 pm

B25 wrote:Well, did you epect any other behaviour of the latriners??? Dogs, stinking dogs.


sure. don't expect anything more from latriners. but it's the rest of the world, especially the supposedly civilised brits, who behaved (and continue to behave like barbarians) in relation to the crimes in the north, that i have a problem with.
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Re: image of edessa

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:42 pm

There's an image etched in my memory of a badly damaged fresco in the turk-desecrated church at Mystra (in the Peloponnese) which reminded me of the Shroud of Turin. But of course it could have something to do with the way Christ (or ZoC) was depicted after the Edessa shroud was discovered in Constantinople ...

http://greatshroudofturinfaq.com/Histor ... rator.html

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The only Brit who tried to make some noise against the present destruction of Greek Orthodox churches in the Turkish occupied north of Cyprus, was BNP's Nick Griffin (but of course, he gets shouted down as a neo-Nazi and everything he says is tarred in the same way :roll: )

http://www.nickgriffinmep.eu/content/tu ... ern-cyprus

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/nick-griffin ... reat-islam
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Re: image of edessa

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:47 pm

ZoC wrote:wot a terrible crime against science and humanity's understanding of potentially the most significant historic artefact in the world.

But Zoccy; not to take anything away from Turkish destruction of Christianity in Cyprus and elsewhere, but the shroud of Turin has been proven fake a loooong time ago...

PS: If you come to Nicosia give us a yell for a pissup...
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Re: image of edessa

Postby ZoC » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:02 pm

Get Real! wrote:
ZoC wrote:wot a terrible crime against science and humanity's understanding of potentially the most significant historic artefact in the world.

But Zoccy; not to take anything away from Turkish destruction of Christianity in Cyprus and elsewhere, but the shroud of Turin has been proven fake a loooong time ago...


not true, gr. carbon 14 dating has since been challenged by a number of scientists and for a host of reasons... and the wayward results don't stack up with all the other evidence which challenge those who think it's fake to explain... how?

Get Real! wrote:PS: If you come to Nicosia give us a yell for a pissup...


cheers, but lying low in paph this year...
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