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[Get Real!]

What we need is to follow a Hellenic path...

Fear not for we are following it to a T... we are well and truly bankrupt!

Virtually the whole world is bankrupt. Do you blame the world recession on following Hellenism?

No, but I blame the Cypriot bankruptcy (not just a recession) on following Hellenism and we have many billions gone missing to prove it!

[wyoming cowboy]

That's why multicult does not work, i.e. Islam in Europe.

Hopefully the leftist thickos in Cyprus and beyond will come to their senses before it's too late for all of us.

if multiculturalism doesnt work in Europe why are European leaders and laws trying so desperately to make it work? I think it can work,maybe a bit slower in Europe. When the economies of Europe and the USA's were booming not too long ago and all these migrants were moving in to help with much needed labor, there were no complaints, much like the 25 million Mexicans here in the usa. But now that things are getting economically harder all blame goes to the Mulsims immigrating into Europe and the poor Mexicans.

[GreekIslandGirl]

What we need is to follow a Hellenic path...

Fear not for we are following it to a T... we are well and truly bankrupt!

Virtually the whole world is bankrupt. Do you blame the world recession on following Hellenism?

No, but I blame the Cypriot bankruptcy (not just a recession) on following Hellenism and we have many billions gone missing to prove it!

Cyprus is not bankrupt. Otherwise the whole world is bankrupt. The banks are going to make less money out of the system than they predicted that's ALL!

Just because the banks no longer give out cheap money, and jobs are harder to create, you cannot go blaming it on Greece (a tiny economy by any means and a very small debtor in comparison to most) or the following of Hellenism. Indeed if they did follow the monetary policies of Solon, no one would be in this mess in the first place.

GR!, you are so quick to blame and shame USA&GB for ruining other (Muslim?) countries yet strangely quiet on their role in reducing Greece to poverty. Why is that?

How many times were you warned Cyprus would be next if you carried on mocking Greece and giving the anti-Greeks ammunition to overcharge Greeks those huge interest rates? Admit it; you joined the anti-Greek bandwagon and now you wake up to the end of the journey and it's not pleasant. Well Greeks have been innocently suffering, without support or a kind word from the likes of you, for years. Let's see how many "lazy Cypriots" stories start getting banded around now ...

[Schnauzer]

Not having watched the video (why should anyone?), so, going by what has been said; it seems to me the extremists who carried out these actions have merely proven the basis for any such ridicule.

Actually I would recommend that people SHOULD watch the 'Film' in order to see just how insulting and offensive it is to those who follow the faith of 'Islam'.

One MUST consider the fact that to a devout 'Muslim', such outrageous ridicule of the 'Prophet' (pbuh) is a greater burden to bear than the threat (or even act of) execution and it is within the bounds of such devotion that the disharmony between 'Islam' and 'Others' exists.

There are numerous 'Faiths' and to each of them (whether or not WE embrace them) a natural respect should be shown, certain of the major 'Faiths' clearly do not follow the 'Tenets' upon which they are based and are therefore flawed.

However, (quite by accident or complete ignorance I am sure) within the 'Film' there is a small scene which (unwittingly, I am again sure) actually portrays an act of pure 'Mercy' when an old 'Jew' declares that he will NOT read the 'Qu'ran'' and actually spits in the sand as he utters the words, WELL, I can assure you that I have been to many places in the world where such an offensive gesture would have seen the 'Head' of the perpetrator of such a remark, rolling in the sand before the 'Spit' had begun it's dissipation, proof indeed of the tolerance and restraint of the 'Prophet' (pbuh) and a good strong 'Kick in the Goolies' for the 'Abject Fool' who obviously did not recognise the significance of such an error of judgement (or knowledge of the 'Faith') and proof indeed of the 'Agenda' which lies behind the distribution of such a 'Movie' (as the Yanks like to call such trash).

[Schnauzer]

As a 'Non Muslim' (but as one who has observed the devoutness of those that ARE) I would suggest that it might be a good idea to discuss the virtues of 'Islam' rather than dismiss them quite so casually, it may well be that WE could learn something about 'Culture', after all, 'Islam' is the fastest growing 'Religion' on the face of the earth, perhaps THAT is why the spread of it's popularity is apparently so greatly feared.

Not so sure about the previous and especially learning about culture by studying Islam. The west has a treasure of cultural sources of its own to turn to, including, (but not limited to) the unsurpassed Greek Philosophy. I am not even very sure that most Muslims themselves would be so devoted and so fanatic if they had half the chance to distance themselves from their religion. Take the example of the TCs and the "European" Turks. What resemblance do they have to the fanatics of the Arab and other Muslim countries? The massive and violent reactions of the Muslims whenever their religion is insulted or "insulted" even by insignificant individuals is the proof that Islam has allows no tolerance. Aren't there so many satirical plays and books and movies about Christianity and our Saints and priests etc? Did any Christians ever react massively and violently?

Yes, Islam IS the fastest growing "Religion" cause the Islamic peoples are the fastest growing in numbers and not because their religion and/or culture are so popular/appealing to the rest of the world. This is valid for its "spreading" as well, considering how the Muslim populations in the western countries are "spreading" by multiplication or through legal or illegal immigration.

In my eagerness to exhibit that which 'I' consider to be disgraceful, I must admit that I may have overstepped the mark and failed to allow for the obvious benefits of the 'Greeks' (in particular) and I do beg your pardon for such oversight, however, 'Cultural Sources' did not only emanate from 'Ancient Greece' and the 'Democratic Principles' which did (among other fine 'Philosophies') have so sadly become so distorted in these latter times that it is hardly surprising that the whole world seems to be in turmoil BUT, I cannot concede that the fault lies with those who respect the principles of 'Islam' since (as you rightly have indicated) 'Satirical Plays' of 'Christianity' are precisely indicative of the fact that the 'Faiths' that embrace the 'Tenets' of it, do NOT adhere to those 'Tenets' with the same fervour as do those who study 'Islam', if 'Christians' DID follow the said 'Tenets' with equal fervour, perhaps they WOULD react in like fashion, who knows ?.

The whole idea of 'Religious Teachings' is to offer 'Hope' to those who suffer the rigours of that which life throws at them, I would be reluctant to condemn, dispute or ridicule a person's 'Faith' since I am aware that there are people on this earth that have NOTHING else of any value in their lives, seen it, lived and suffered among it all in my time I assure you.

Respect. x Schnauzer.

[supporttheunderdog]

How many times were you warned Cyprus would be next if you carried on mocking Greece and giving the anti-Greeks ammunition to overcharge Greeks those huge interest rates? Admit it; you joined the anti-Greek bandwagon and now you wake up to the end of the journey and it's not pleasant. Well Greeks have been innocently suffering, without support or a kind word from the likes of you, for years. Let's see how many "lazy Cypriots" stories start getting banded around now ...

My, my! GR- the power you must possess if the views that you express ar so influential on the movers and shakers in the world *anking system.

Personnally I thought that the rerason the *ankers wanted to charge such rates was because they formed the view from their own experience that countries such as Greece (and increasingly Cyprus) and/irt banks in Spain and Cyprus are seen as bad risks to lend to, as state expenditure vastly exceeds income, or (for the banks) the debtors (eg The Greek Government, or commercial entities like property developers) have borrowed to much and cannot pay them back.

As for Greeks inncently suffering, they voted for the governments that promised them Heaven but didn't mention they have to sell the earth (and then some) to pay for it.

[GreekIslandGirl]

How many times were you warned Cyprus would be next if you carried on mocking Greece and giving the anti-Greeks ammunition to overcharge Greeks those huge interest rates? Admit it; you joined the anti-Greek bandwagon and now you wake up to the end of the journey and it's not pleasant. Well Greeks have been innocently suffering, without support or a kind word from the likes of you, for years. Let's see how many "lazy Cypriots" stories start getting banded around now ...

My, my! GR- the power you must possess if the views that you express ar so influential on the movers and shakers in the world *anking system.

Personnally I thought that the rerason the *ankers wanted to charge such rates was because they formed the view from their own experience that countries such as Greece (and increasingly Cyprus) and/irt banks in Spain and Cyprus are seen as bad risks to lend to, as state expenditure vastly exceeds income, or (for the banks) the debtors (eg The Greek Government, or commercial entities like property developers) have borrowed to much and cannot pay them back.

As for Greeks inncently suffering, they voted for the governments that promised them Heaven but didn't mention they have to sell the earth (and then some) to pay for it.

And here's another anti-Greek troll of the like of GR! who helps spread the lies against Greeks and supports the bankers' penalties of inflated interest rates on innocent Greeks. As though it was only Greeks who borrowed money; conveniently forgetting the real culprits who borrow money to bomb places like Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and who spread the same sorts of lies against Egyptians and Syrians so that they (the bankers of the West) can continue to feed their fat faces!