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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:03 am

repulsewarrior wrote:vp:
Why not ahsiktir GCs? just ask yourself were the TCs better off with GCs than the Turks, travel north and see for yourself...what did we have with GCs absolutely nothing we were discriminated and looked down upon as second class citizens.


...dude, the last time i was in the north, it was 1980-81. i saw the broken glass in the window that was clean, i saw the rubble lived in where it was not Cypriot, i met the scowling carpetbaggers. respectfully, there are many stories depicting the goodwill of Cypriots since the gates have opened, where people see themselves as neighbours, and in the same distress; in that sense do not dishonour this Grace, they are not just a "them", "Greeks" or "Turks".

...and why not asiktir Turkey, you ask yourself, because your life should be far better, now. you remain a second class citizen looked down upon, by the same elite and administration who claim they bring you Peace with their Proxy War. why not Freedom, Sovereignty, not just the Liberty interlocutors offer?

...the Turkish State indeed is a credit to the Human Race, but it's Government still remains mired, still resisting the change that is the Modern Age, now beyond, into the Age of Information.

@Lordo, it's over and move on, give up; what are you talking about?

...indeed, Cypriots can change the world, if they change themselves.



What did you smoke tonight, you sound like you are high on some sort of drug....1980/81 is a long time ago if you visit now you will see we are not that far behind the south....plus as long as you stick with the same policies of the past 38 years you will keep Turkey here forever, you have to think outside of your brainwashed boxes to understand that you are partners on this island with the TCs not the sole indigenous and rightful owners with us as some minority under GC domination and discrimination.
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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:31 am

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Piratis wrote:VP, unlike you we are civilized people and all we ever fought for is freedom and democracy. On the other hand your past track record (and present) is filled with invasions, ethnic cleansings and genocides against innocent native people whom you invaded and stole their lands.

In Cyprus we have many other minorities and we have no problems with any of them, except with yours. On the other hand in Turkey they have problems with all their minorities. So it is clear who doesn't know how to administer democracy and who is causing the problems.


Firstly you will not be left at our mercy we will be at yours you being the majority plus your track record when dealing with us is very checkered and dubious thats why there is absolutely no trust between the 2 sides, over the years you GCs have done absolutely nothing towards proving you have changed and can be trusted with the future of all Cypriots. Your ideology is just as it was back in the 1960s that Cyprus is a Greek island and we TCs are not partners but just another minority to be dominated exploited and discriminated against.

You keep referring back to the Kurds your double standards are sickening do you support their plight for their own nation? I do....do you? are they fighting for what they believe is right? but in the same breath you deny me the same right because you argue that the TCs do not own a specific area of Cyprus but we have a partnership agreement with veto rights which like it or night gives us rights in the sovereignty of the land private ownership will be respected when you respect our right to establish our own recognized country. The compromise for Tcs is here they will accept a BBF with political equality of the 2 states as support by the UN which you reject.


VP, you are the ones who invaded our island with the aim to dominate, exploit and discriminate against us, something which you have been doing non stop for centuries. The only thing we fought for is our freedom. And this is exactly what the Kurds are fighting for also.

There are no double standards from my part, but from yours. Cyprus was occupied by Turks and a minority of Turks was created on our island during the Turkish occupation. This shouldn't stop Cyprus from being free from Turkish oppression. The exact same thing should apply to Kurdistan. The Kurds should have a right to rule their own land (the land they inhabited long before any Turks occupied them). How is this equivalent with you stealing our homeland, something which you have no right whatsoever? On the contrary, what is equivalent is freedom to Cyprus and freedom to Kurdistan from the invading Turks.
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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:48 am

Piratis you will do better to leave 157o behind for once and for all. water of the ducks back as it were. we don't give a shit. get it. we are cypriots and we have been cypriots for a very long time for all intense and purposes. just because your ancestors may gave been there longer makes no difference. you invaded and so did we no get over it.

now whats for luch.
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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:50 pm

Lordo wrote:Piratis you will do better to leave 157o behind for once and for all. water of the ducks back as it were. we don't give a shit. get it. we are cypriots and we have been cypriots for a very long time for all intense and purposes. just because your ancestors may gave been there longer makes no difference. you invaded and so did we no get over it.

now whats for luch.


Possibly duck...???

Lordo me dear ... you are one of many who really have to make up your minds whether you're CYs or Turks... you sound very unconvincing when you claim to be "cypriots"... rather like the Spartans really.

Peace in CY...??? It's really very simple... equitable zonal arrangements with equal effective says in gov for all, with no Guarantees and no blocking powers.

...and there you have it... The basis of a CY Peace in about a dozen words.
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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:49 pm

Lordo wrote:Piratis you will do better to leave 157o behind for once and for all. water of the ducks back as it were. we don't give a shit. get it. we are cypriots and we have been cypriots for a very long time for all intense and purposes. just because your ancestors may gave been there longer makes no difference. you invaded and so did we no get over it.

now whats for luch.


If it was just about an event that happened in 1570 then nobody would even remember it today. Unfortunately 1570 was just the beginning of the problems you have caused to Cyprus. The Ottoman oppression ended in 1878, and then just 80 years later, in 1958, you started another conflict, followed by another invasion in 1974 and an occupation that continues until today. At no point you showed any kind of respect to democracy and human rights.

We can be forgiving about past events, but we will not ignore the crimes and illegalities you are committing against us now. And if you are trying to justify your current crimes by looking into the past for excuses then why should we even forgive you about your past crimes? To allow you to present a fake kind of history in your propaganda against us?
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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:01 pm

Lordo wrote:Piratis you will do better to leave 157o behind for once and for all. water of the ducks back as it were.

Is that the same duck that got anal? :?
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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:47 am

Is that the same duck that got anal?


...well said.
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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:17 am

Piratis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Piratis you will do better to leave 157o behind for once and for all. water of the ducks back as it were. we don't give a shit. get it. we are cypriots and we have been cypriots for a very long time for all intense and purposes. just because your ancestors may gave been there longer makes no difference. you invaded and so did we no get over it.

now whats for luch.


If it was just about an event that happened in 1570 then nobody would even remember it today. Unfortunately 1570 was just the beginning of the problems you have caused to Cyprus. The Ottoman oppression ended in 1878, and then just 80 years later, in 1958, you started another conflict, followed by another invasion in 1974 and an occupation that continues until today. At no point you showed any kind of respect to democracy and human rights.

We can be forgiving about past events, but we will not ignore the crimes and illegalities you are committing against us now. And if you are trying to justify your current crimes by looking into the past for excuses then why should we even forgive you about your past crimes? To allow you to present a fake kind of history in your propaganda against us?


We are partners is Cyprus not just minority, get that into your head if you can then your whole perspective will change. We are not your subordinates and never will be, will fight you with every bone in our body but we will never be the ones to start trouble history has shown your ideology meant our death warrant and its only natural people rise up to fight for survival which is what we did.
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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby Piratis » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:49 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Piratis you will do better to leave 157o behind for once and for all. water of the ducks back as it were. we don't give a shit. get it. we are cypriots and we have been cypriots for a very long time for all intense and purposes. just because your ancestors may gave been there longer makes no difference. you invaded and so did we no get over it.

now whats for luch.


If it was just about an event that happened in 1570 then nobody would even remember it today. Unfortunately 1570 was just the beginning of the problems you have caused to Cyprus. The Ottoman oppression ended in 1878, and then just 80 years later, in 1958, you started another conflict, followed by another invasion in 1974 and an occupation that continues until today. At no point you showed any kind of respect to democracy and human rights.

We can be forgiving about past events, but we will not ignore the crimes and illegalities you are committing against us now. And if you are trying to justify your current crimes by looking into the past for excuses then why should we even forgive you about your past crimes? To allow you to present a fake kind of history in your propaganda against us?


We are partners is Cyprus not just minority, get that into your head if you can then your whole perspective will change. We are not your subordinates and never will be, will fight you with every bone in our body but we will never be the ones to start trouble history has shown your ideology meant our death warrant and its only natural people rise up to fight for survival which is what we did.


Did we bring you to Cyprus to make you our subordinates? No
Did you invade our island to make us your subordinates? Yes

What we want: Democracy (one person one vote) and human rights for all.
What you want: Racist descriptions, stealing our lands and human rights violations. (the same things you have been doing since the day you set your foot on our island)
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Re: Peace in Cyprus.

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:27 am

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Piratis you will do better to leave 157o behind for once and for all. water of the ducks back as it were. we don't give a shit. get it. we are cypriots and we have been cypriots for a very long time for all intense and purposes. just because your ancestors may gave been there longer makes no difference. you invaded and so did we no get over it.

now whats for luch.


If it was just about an event that happened in 1570 then nobody would even remember it today. Unfortunately 1570 was just the beginning of the problems you have caused to Cyprus. The Ottoman oppression ended in 1878, and then just 80 years later, in 1958, you started another conflict, followed by another invasion in 1974 and an occupation that continues until today. At no point you showed any kind of respect to democracy and human rights.

We can be forgiving about past events, but we will not ignore the crimes and illegalities you are committing against us now. And if you are trying to justify your current crimes by looking into the past for excuses then why should we even forgive you about your past crimes? To allow you to present a fake kind of history in your propaganda against us?


We are partners is Cyprus not just minority, get that into your head if you can then your whole perspective will change. We are not your subordinates and never will be, will fight you with every bone in our body but we will never be the ones to start trouble history has shown your ideology meant our death warrant and its only natural people rise up to fight for survival which is what we did.


Did we bring you to Cyprus to make you our subordinates? No
Did you invade our island to make us your subordinates? Yes

What we want: Democracy (one person one vote) and human rights for all.
What you want: Racist descriptions, stealing our lands and human rights violations. (the same things you have been doing since the day you set your foot on our island)


Do you ever understand what being written for years and years on this forum, is a BBF with political equality taking away your rights? if so then complian to the UN and EU because thats why they support and what they feel will bring union to the island but its your side that rejects this and doesnt want to compromise, you especially are a remanat of the old eoka terrorists who still think that the island is Greek and should be given to Greece, so this perspectine will guarantee nothing will happen to chnage the current divide..ho I forgot unless the swing in power goes either your or our way.
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