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[kimon07]

.......The Cypriot people can live together in PEACE......

How very true. Any ideas of how to accomplish that? Do you think the present partition and the presence of the Turkish army and of the Turkish settlers will help? Or do you think time has come for you to do something about that?

Why should we? when you have not chnaged one iota ad dstill demand we become a minority in our own country and do not see us as equal partners.

There you have it Halil. As long as the TC community is controlled by people thinking like VP, your nice ideas about peacefull coexistence is nothing but a Chimera (= illusion, dream, fantasy, delusion, spectre, snare, hallucination, figment, ignis fatuus, will-o'-the-wisp). Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002).

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.......The Cypriot people can live together in PEACE......

How very true. Any ideas of how to accomplish that? Do you think the present partition and the presence of the Turkish army and of the Turkish settlers will help? Or do you think time has come for you to do something about that?

Why should we? when you have not chnaged one iota ad dstill demand we become a minority in our own country and do not see us as equal partners.

There you have it Halil. As long as the TC community is controlled by people thinking like VP, your nice ideas about peacefull coexistence is nothing but a Chimera (= illusion, dream, fantasy, delusion, spectre, snare, hallucination, figment, ignis fatuus, will-o'-the-wisp). Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002).

Ask Halil if he wants to live as a minority among revenge seeking GCs? everyone wants a peacefull coexistence but its how we achieve it that is important and allowing GCs to do as they wish is in noway acceptable to the majority of TCs.

[kimon07]

.......The Cypriot people can live together in PEACE......

How very true. Any ideas of how to accomplish that? Do you think the present partition and the presence of the Turkish army and of the Turkish settlers will help? Or do you think time has come for you to do something about that?

Why should we? when you have not chnaged one iota ad dstill demand we become a minority in our own country and do not see us as equal partners.

There you have it Halil. As long as the TC community is controlled by people thinking like VP, your nice ideas about peacefull coexistence is nothing but a Chimera (= illusion, dream, fantasy, delusion, spectre, snare, hallucination, figment, ignis fatuus, will-o'-the-wisp). Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002).

Ask Halil if he wants to live as a minority among revenge seeking GCs? everyone wants a peacefull coexistence but its how we achieve it that is important and allowing GCs to do as they wish is in noway acceptable to the majority of TCs.

I am tired of asking the same question: Do you accept to live in a European state with European rights for all? And I am tired of having the same answer from you and your likes. NO! So stop wasting our time with meaningless discussions and debates on the same old subjects. You have mad your point very clear. You want to establish on Cyprus an Annan Plan state which will be a partly a hostage and partly a province of Turkey. You will not have.

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Kimyon you are chasing your own tail...we support a BBF with political equality as supported by the UN and EU, you do not support this, you want a unitary state where the GCs rule supreme, this we will never allow.

[kimon07]

Kimyon you are chasing your own tail...we support a BBF with political equality as supported by the UN and EU, you do not support this, you want a unitary state where the GCs rule supreme, this we will never allow.

BBF is dead. You denounced all partial achieved at various stages and you keep coming back with new demands. We start from ZERO = New democratic/European constitution = United State of Cyprus. Lillikas will see to that (if he is elected, which I sincerely hope).

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Kimyon you are chasing your own tail...we support a BBF with political equality as supported by the UN and EU, you do not support this, you want a unitary state where the GCs rule supreme, this we will never allow.

BBF is dead. You denounced all partial achieved at various stages and you keep coming back with new demands. We start from ZERO = New democratic/European constitution = United State of Cyprus. Lillikas will see to that (if he is elected, which I sincerely hope).

If this Likass guy is elected then we can talk but he will have to start by announcing that the GCs no longer support BBF and want to scrap all the hard work over th past years to start yet again from zero (should go down well with the UN )

Give us some details of how this Likass guys sees a "United State of Cyprus" or should it be United States of Cyprus? how do the TCs fit into the picture? and how will he get what he wants if we do not play ball?

[kimon07]

Kimyon you are chasing your own tail...we support a BBF with political equality as supported by the UN and EU, you do not support this, you want a unitary state where the GCs rule supreme, this we will never allow.

BBF is dead. You denounced all partial achieved at various stages and you keep coming back with new demands. We start from ZERO = New democratic/European constitution = United State of Cyprus. Lillikas will see to that (if he is elected, which I sincerely hope).

If this Likass guy is elected then we can talk but he will have to start by announcing that the GCs no longer support BBF and want to scrap .....

He has been declaring this every day since he anounced his candidency.

....all the hard work over th past years to start yet again from zero.....

It has all been blown by the maximalism of Turkey and your side (thank God for that).

Give us some details of how this Likass guys sees a "United State of Cyprus" or should it be United States of Cyprus? how do the TCs fit into the picture? and how will he get what he wants if we do not play ball?

You will find his program in the papers such as Cyprus mail I suppose.
Did I say united state? I meant United States.

As I told you at least 10 times under other threads, but you pretend you never heard it before, the TCs will fit in the US of Cyprus exactly the same way Texans or New Yorkers fit in the US of A. And to go even further, exactly the same way Greek Americans and Jewish Americans and Italian Americans and Latino Americans etc fit into the USA system. Capiche?? Take it or leave it and remain a "Dovlet" (do you call it?) of Turkey.

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Kimyon you are chasing your own tail...we support a BBF with political equality as supported by the UN and EU, you do not support this, you want a unitary state where the GCs rule supreme, this we will never allow.

BBF is dead. You denounced all partial achieved at various stages and you keep coming back with new demands. We start from ZERO = New democratic/European constitution = United State of Cyprus. Lillikas will see to that (if he is elected, which I sincerely hope).

If this Likass guy is elected then we can talk but he will have to start by announcing that the GCs no longer support BBF and want to scrap .....

He has been declaring this every day since he anounced his candidency.

....all the hard work over th past years to start yet again from zero.....

It has all been blown by the maximalism of Turkey and your side (thank God for that).

Give us some details of how this Likass guys sees a "United State of Cyprus" or should it be United States of Cyprus? how do the TCs fit into the picture? and how will he get what he wants if we do not play ball?

You will find his program in the papers such as Cyprus mail I suppose.
Did I say united state? I meant United States.

As I told you at least 10 times under other threads, but you pretend you never heard it before, the TCs will fit in the US of Cyprus exactly the same way Texans or New Yorkers fit in the US of A. And to go even further, exactly the same way Greek Americans and Jewish Americans and Italian Americans and Latino Americans etc fit into the USA system. Capiche?? Take it or leave it and remain a "Dovlet" (do you call it?) of Turkey.

We'll leave it, as I have always stated you want the freedom to as you wish which will be to our detrement...no thanks.

[kimon07]

Kimyon you are chasing your own tail...we support a BBF with political equality as supported by the UN and EU, you do not support this, you want a unitary state where the GCs rule supreme, this we will never allow.

BBF is dead. You denounced all partial achieved at various stages and you keep coming back with new demands. We start from ZERO = New democratic/European constitution = United State of Cyprus. Lillikas will see to that (if he is elected, which I sincerely hope).

If this Likass guy is elected then we can talk but he will have to start by announcing that the GCs no longer support BBF and want to scrap .....

He has been declaring this every day since he anounced his candidency.

....all the hard work over th past years to start yet again from zero.....

It has all been blown by the maximalism of Turkey and your side (thank God for that).

Give us some details of how this Likass guys sees a "United State of Cyprus" or should it be United States of Cyprus? how do the TCs fit into the picture? and how will he get what he wants if we do not play ball?

You will find his program in the papers such as Cyprus mail I suppose.
Did I say united state? I meant United States.

As I told you at least 10 times under other threads, but you pretend you never heard it before, the TCs will fit in the US of Cyprus exactly the same way Texans or New Yorkers fit in the US of A. And to go even further, exactly the same way Greek Americans and Jewish Americans and Italian Americans and Latino Americans etc fit into the USA system. Capiche?? Take it or leave it and remain a "Dovlet" (do you call it?) of Turkey.

We'll leave it, as I have always stated you want the freedom to as you wish.......

The concept of freedom is not rubber to stretch or shrink like Turkish propaganda. Therefore it is not a matter of HOW you or me want it but WHETER we want it or not. Evidently, the way YOU regard freedom is the way its being conceived by the Turkish Mafia state. You can have it. Up there in the north. And enjoy it. But stop the hypocritical complains about your "plight" and your "isolation" and other nonsense like that.

[MR-from-NG]

1570 - 1878: The Turks invade Cyprus in 1570

I stopped reading after that. I'm convinced this man is sick in the head

i must be missing something here... why the f*ck does this statement make piratis sick in the head?

r u splitting hairs 'cos they were 'ottomans' & not 'turks'?

please put me straight 'cos otherwise i'm gonna conclude u're just another labotomised latriner.

Zoc, we are discussing the Cyprus problem, not its history. The time Pissartist is referring to is irrelevant to the position we find ourselves in today. This is similar to the black woman recorded on a bus telling all white people that she hated them and that she wouldn't even be here (England) had her ancestors not been brought to the country as slaves. In her little mind the abuse directed at all the white people on the bus would be justified by this fact.

The troubles in my country started back in 1963 with your desire to exterminate the TC population and to gift my country to Greece. Its as simple as that. Who gives a shit what happened in 1571?