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Re: "The man is an idiot......"!!

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:49 pm

The difference between the Turks and you lot is that Turks love their country.
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Re: "The man is an idiot......"!!

Postby kimon07 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:18 pm

I fully agree with both Ippodromos and Baruti about the consistency of the Turkish foreign policy, their long term planing and their superb ability to take advantage of and to exploit, in the best possible way, the geostrategic importance or alleged importance of their country. However, the Turkish foreign policy was successful only when and to the extend that it complied or served the interests of its protectors namely the US and Britain. It seems to me that it is gradually becoming antagonistic to the US in many areas recently. I don't think such a practice will result to much success.

I also agree that the real clowns in respect to foreign policy are us and I mean both Greece and Cyprus. Our foreign policies change every time the minister changes. However, the article I posted concerned Davutoglou and his neo Ottoman aspirations due to which Turkey managed to be considered hostile or at least dangerous by all those countries which the US hoped that Turkey would be influencing positively in regards to the type of "democracy" they thought they could impose on the Arab countries of the region.

As for Israel. I don't think it is a matter of who governs Turkey any more. Exactly because the foreign policy of Turkey is consistent and long termed, which Israel knows very well, they are now persuaded, I believe, that Turkey has decided that it should become partner to the natural resources of the East Med, including those of Israel. And that Israel will never accept. Israel has also realised that Turkey aspires to become the dominant power in the region, the supreme leader of the Muslim countries which will be dictating its policies to all its neighbors. This is something which Israel is again not prepared to accept. If Israel was certain that Turkey's demands and maximalist aspirations were temporary, i.e., a policy of the ruling party only, it would not be so keen in:

Proceeding to the strengthening of its navy (In order to protect its EEZ from Turkey).
Trying to come to long term defence and energy agreements with Cyprus and Greece.
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Re: "The man is an idiot......"!!

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:22 pm

Our foreign policy has also been very stable and it goes something like this…

“We are Greek settlers who are better settlers than the Turkish settlers so please remove the bad settlers from this island!”

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Re: "The man is an idiot......"!!

Postby kimon07 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:................Turks love their country.


True. That's why, unlike us, they exterminate fifth columnists ruthlessly!!

(I mean, using legal and judicial means, of course).
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