supporttheunderdog wrote:kimon07 wrote:barouti wrote:What I do contest is the argument that they're "absolutely and definitely" Greek because some of them have fair hair and blue eyes.
I fully agree with you on this. By posting those particular pictures, and not others of other Pathans and Kalash with more Mediterranean features, I wanted to contest the study which STUD had posted, according to which the majority of these three tribes are of pure Pakistani descent.
The photos prove nothing -
Oh yes, they do prove that most people of these three tribes have nothing in common with the ordinary Pakistani. (Please the photos of link not just the ones I uploaded)
...........the best science however very clearly suggests there is probably only very limited genetic input from Mediterranean peoples in the areas of India/Pakistan taken by Alexander or his later successors in the Indo-Greek kingdoms but by the same token that certain characteristics of skin tone and eye colour could arise and be perpetuated.
What best science? Any other links than the one included in your post?
A few more comments about that particular study:
1. It admits Greek presence prior to Alexander (first paragraph). I suppose they thus confirm the Greek historians about the "invasions" of Hercules and Dionysus, whomever those might have been? I don't know any other cases of historically or even mythically reported entrances of Greeks in those regions prior to Alexander.
2. The leaders of the study you linked to were a Pakistani institution and two Pakistani professors who, most certainly, collected and chose the samples to be tested. No one knows with what criteria they did that, nor which of the samples they gathered they finally submitted to the Greek doctor and to the British and American institutions.
3. The Greek lady hospital doctor advised only whether any Thalassaemia (Mediterranean anaemia) was traced or not in the samples submitted to her, while the British and the American institutions apparently simply analysed the samples sent to them by the Pakistanies.
4. Many of the references made in the study are to other (previous) studies made by the same Pakistani professors.
5. It is a historical fact that the Muslim and the Pakistani authorities have been trying for ages (applying even mass massacres) to convert these peoples to Islam, to assimilate them and to discredit their claims of being descendants of Greeks.
