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[kentish]

My own understanding is that any ROC citizen who qualifes is welcome to compete in any international competion but it must be as an ROC Citizen through the auspices of the recognised Cypriot sporting bodies which are based in the ROC, which for the Turkish Speaking Cypriots living in the illegally occupied zone means recognition of the ROC and is prohibited by the occupiers.

Wrong. They are not prohibited by anyone in the north, the problem is they do not want to be forced to compete under a flag which does not represent them ass to the fact that even if there was a TC who could run the 100m faster than Usain he would still not be chosen the GCs would find a way to make sure he does not go, they would rather have Yorgo.

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[Kikapu]

My own understanding is that any ROC citizen who qualifes is welcome to compete in any international competion but it must be as an ROC Citizen through the auspices of the recognised Cypriot sporting bodies which are based in the ROC, which for the Turkish Speaking Cypriots living in the illegally occupied zone means recognition of the ROC and is prohibited by the occupiers.

Wrong. They are not prohibited by anyone in the north, the problem is they do not want to be forced to compete under a flag which does not represent them ass to the fact that even if there was a TC who could run the 100m faster than Usain he would still not be chosen the GCs would find a way to make sure he does not go, they would rather have Yorgo.

Give us some examples rather than wasting your breath on propaganda where a TC athlete would not be accepted by the RoC if they were actually good at it. The fact that these TCs accepted RoC passports, they are willingly accepting to be represented by the RoC as well as to be under the RoC flag. If they choose not to do so, then it's their tough luck. I though politics should be taken out of Olympics, which was what the article was trying to say, so take the politics out of it, otherwise they can compete as a Turk for Turkey, but not as a TC. It's very simple to understand really, unless you are complete moron. So which is it?

[kimon07]

....there are GCs competing in the name of Greece out of choice....

That's a lie. Greek Cypriots have stopped joining the Greek National teams of any sort decades ago.

........but Meliz had only once choice as shes is denied to participate by the GCs.

That's a lie. All she had to do was to get her RoC passport, and ask the Cypriot athletic authorities to accept her and announce her to the IOC. Did she do any of these? NO!

P.S. I suppose she preferred to be purchased by Turkey like some Ethiopians and Nigerians and even an American did.

[kimon07]

A way needs to be found to address this situation. Sports, Olympics in particular, symbolizes all the good that humanity has to offer.

Indeed, this situation needs to be addressed. The Olympic principles and the "good of humanity" call for drastic measures against countries applying savage/barbaric practices against humanity such as genocides, ethnic cleansing, massacres, deprivation of people from their human, democratic religious and other rights. Such countries, including Turkey, should be banned from the Olympic Games and from all other international athletic and cultural events until they start following the rules and principles which are "good for humanity". In other words, until they become civilized.

[Viewpoint]

A way needs to be found to address this situation. Sports, Olympics in particular, symbolizes all the good that humanity has to offer.

Indeed, this situation needs to be addressed. The Olympic principles and the "good of humanity" call for drastic measures against countries applying savage/barbaric practices against humanity such as genocides, ethnic cleansing, massacres, deprivation of people from their human, democratic religious and other rights. Such countries, including Turkey, should be banned from the Olympic Games and from all other international athletic and cultural events until they start following the rules and principles which are "good for humanity". In other words, until they become civilized.

You wont have any nations left to compete in any international event no country has a clean record.

[Viewpoint]

My own understanding is that any ROC citizen who qualifes is welcome to compete in any international competion but it must be as an ROC Citizen through the auspices of the recognised Cypriot sporting bodies which are based in the ROC, which for the Turkish Speaking Cypriots living in the illegally occupied zone means recognition of the ROC and is prohibited by the occupiers.

Wrong. They are not prohibited by anyone in the north, the problem is they do not want to be forced to compete under a flag which does not represent them ass to the fact that even if there was a TC who could run the 100m faster than Usain he would still not be chosen the GCs would find a way to make sure he does not go, they would rather have Yorgo.

Give us some examples rather than wasting your breath on propaganda where a TC athlete would not be accepted by the RoC if they were actually good at it. The fact that these TCs accepted RoC passports, they are willingly accepting to be represented by the RoC as well as to be under the RoC flag. If they choose not to do so, then it's their tough luck. I though politics should be taken out of Olympics, which was what the article was trying to say, so take the politics out of it, otherwise they can compete as a Turk for Turkey, but not as a TC. It's very simple to understand really, unless you are complete moron. So which is it?

Not one TC in the sports or entertainment field has been chosen to represent the "RoC" although they have ventured into the south, they have been pushed to one side and left on the bench this is testiment enough that TCs will never suceed amongest GCs, because the GCs will never allow it. (I can introduce you to a young TC footballer who could play better than most GC footballers only when he tried to flourish in the south he was constantly ridiculed and left on the substitutes bench week after week only to be disheartened and give up playing in the south amongst foreigners.)

[kimon07]

A way needs to be found to address this situation. Sports, Olympics in particular, symbolizes all the good that humanity has to offer.

Indeed, this situation needs to be addressed. The Olympic principles and the "good of humanity" call for drastic measures against countries applying savage/barbaric practices against humanity such as genocides, ethnic cleansing, massacres, deprivation of people from their human, democratic religious and other rights. Such countries, including Turkey, should be banned from the Olympic Games and from all other international athletic and cultural events until they start following the rules and principles which are "good for humanity". In other words, until they become civilized.

You wont have any nations left to compete in any international event no country has a clean record.

Then we should kick out the dirtiest ones like Turkey. OR! Stop the hypocritical appeals to the "humanitarian principles" and the Olympic principles and carry on with our crimes and the buying and selling of medalists between countries. The highest bidder gets the most golds and that is that.

[Kikapu]

My own understanding is that any ROC citizen who qualifes is welcome to compete in any international competion but it must be as an ROC Citizen through the auspices of the recognised Cypriot sporting bodies which are based in the ROC, which for the Turkish Speaking Cypriots living in the illegally occupied zone means recognition of the ROC and is prohibited by the occupiers.

Wrong. They are not prohibited by anyone in the north, the problem is they do not want to be forced to compete under a flag which does not represent them ass to the fact that even if there was a TC who could run the 100m faster than Usain he would still not be chosen the GCs would find a way to make sure he does not go, they would rather have Yorgo.

Give us some examples rather than wasting your breath on propaganda where a TC athlete would not be accepted by the RoC if they were actually good at it. The fact that these TCs accepted RoC passports, they are willingly accepting to be represented by the RoC as well as to be under the RoC flag. If they choose not to do so, then it's their tough luck. I though politics should be taken out of Olympics, which was what the article was trying to say, so take the politics out of it, otherwise they can compete as a Turk for Turkey, but not as a TC. It's very simple to understand really, unless you are complete moron. So which is it?

Not one TC in the sports or entertainment field has been chosen to represent the "RoC" although they have ventured into the south, they have been pushed to one side and left on the bench this is testiment enough that TCs will never suceed amongest GCs, because the GCs will never allow it. (I can introduce you to a young TC footballer who could play better than most GC footballers only when he tried to flourish in the south he was constantly ridiculed and left on the substitutes bench week after week only to be disheartened and give up playing in the south amongst foreigners.)

So you do not have any examples to show us of TC athletes being denied a place in the RoC team to the Olympics.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt and say I believe your story of the TC football player being benched mot of the time. The question is, is he being benched because he is really good, or is he being benched because he is not so good. First of all, all players in every sport think they are good, but are they? Why would the team take him on and not use him if he is good ? Besides, in team sports like football, every player has to fight to keep their place on the team in the position they play. In the Olympics, most sports are based on the fastest time, furthest distance and highest point reached. If a TC athlete can come anywhere to a fastest time to win a medal for their country and that country does not use them, then that country is stupid. So far that has not been the case with the RoC and you have not shown anything otherwise.

Case Closed!

[Viewpoint]

Again you side with the "RoC" because your loyalty is to the GC people not the TCs whom you will run into the ground at every opportunity. The point thats being made is that even if the TC was the best in the world the deciding body being the GCs would not allow him to compete, the GC general public do not accept a TCs to represent the "RoC" never noway nohow.

[Kikapu]

Again you side with the "RoC" because your loyalty is to the GC people not the TCs whom you will run into the ground at every opportunity. The point thats being made is that even if the TC was the best in the world the deciding body being the GCs would not allow him to compete, the GC general public do not accept a TCs to represent the "RoC" never noway nohow.

Without examples to back your claim, you cannot be taken seriously in what you claim, no matter how much you may try to accuse me of whom I may be siding with, which are just as baseless as all your other claims which are proven to be false time and time again, just so for you to try and get yourself out of a jam you have put yourself into. I am a Cypriot and the RoC is my country of birth as well as being a citizen of the RoC. Unless you can back your claims, you will be challenged and shown to have made baseless claims, and I have done this with you many times, but you never give up and always come back for more. I'm happy to oblige you every time..

Don't blame me if you can't back your own claims.