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[kentish]

Calm down repulsing...what exactly got your knickers in a twist? the fact that you want us to submit to the majority? knowing full well how dangerous that would be for TCs.

Majority Rule and Minority Ruled in True Democracy and in the EU is a Political distinction and not a ethnicity one. Those who rule will be the political party with a majority and not ruled by ethnic party who are a majority, so stop your fear mongering propaganda about TCs fears on the majority rulers. Political parties will consist of all Cypriots who follow certain political ideology, and those political parties who have the majority will rule. In a True Democracy, any political party can rule if they have the majority, and when they don't, then they will be ruled by others, and just like Sand Dunes, the political positioning is consistently shifting with time due to peoples own choice as to which political party to support based on their own political ideology.

The fact that you supported AP in 2004 and still support AP today and being a "I am a Partitionist at Heart", you have ZERO credibility to make us believe you are NOT after partition for Cyprus through BBF, if it's to be based on AP style. BBF AP style is your "Trojan Horse" to partition.

So lets get what you are saying, if the majority want to behead all the nowborn children of TC origin this should be allowed as the majority voted for it? do you know how stupid you sound without checks and balances ther ewill be no solution. BBF with political equality of the 2 states under one roof is the only way forward...time you got that into your thick skull. I am will to compromise from my partition stance are you willing to compromise from wanting us to gift the whole island to the GCs to do as they wish?

I knew you were very backwards in every way, specially when it comes to politics, but even I didn't know you that fcuking backwards to the times of almost 4,000 years ago for God sake.

Can you show me where any political majority party has done anything to what you have suggested above in the last 4000 years?

You are confusing modern day Democracy with the Pharaoh who ruled Egypt 4000 years ago.

Do you know how stupid you sound?

Why don't you pick up a book on "Basic Democracy 101 for Idiots" and read it before you open your mouth again here on the forum.

As a TC, I'm embarrassed to read your above post, from someone who claims to be a TC and worse, claims to be representative of the average TC in the north.

Now I have heard it all. I sure hope the VPs 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 versions are not the representatives of those TCs in the north, or else they are in deep shit.

Cyprus 1963. Yugoslavia 1991.

clearly not very funny but as kikapu ( our greek cypriot friend) likes these smilies so much , here are a few more :lol dont know why you use them so much, they are pathetic really and often a replacement for words. you are a true retard my friend, on the same scale as repulsewarrior.

[kentish]

how funny, the system denied a few smilies in my post because kikapu used the maximum allowed (10) no doubt in his last post he had more than ten and had to remove some. its always an idiot that spends time lauging at his own jokes. kikapu you are a self important greek joker.

[repulsewarrior]

BBF with political equality of the 2 states under one roof is the only way forward...

please answer yes or no, vp:

1. A BBF requires three governing bodies (at least) if it is based on a Bicommunal Principal.

2. i would accept a Maronite Constituency, Armenian Constituency, and even a Latin Constituency, along with a Greek Constituency, and a Turkish Constituency, if they are all equal.

3.for Justice to be Seen in Cyprus, a Right of Return, for some at least (from '63 and '74) they would return as they were forced to leave, as Communities.

[Viewpoint]

BBF with political equality of the 2 states under one roof is the only way forward...

please answer yes or no, vp:

1. A BBF requires three governing bodies (at least) if it is based on a Bicommunal Principal.

2. i would accept a Maronite Constituency, Armenian Constituency, and even a Latin Constituency, along with a Greek Constituency, and a Turkish Constituency, if they are all equal.

3.for Justice to be Seen in Cyprus, a Right of Return, for some at least (from '63 and '74) they would return as they were forced to leave, as Communities.

1.YES
2.NO
3.WHERE PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE.

[Kikapu]

Cyprus 1963. Yugoslavia 1991.

Is that really what happened in 1963 (and 1991), MR-from-NG, that ALL the first born TCs were decreed to be killed because that was the choice made my the majority in Cyprus in 1963??

If so, then I don't know how my brother who was the first born survived in 1963, despite being in GC captivity for a week?

Was there even a Democracy in Cyprus back in 1963? (that was a rhetorical question which requires no answers, thank you!)

Even without Democracy back in 1963, no such decree was ever given.

By definition, in a True Democracy, there are Checks & Balances & Rule of Law to protect all the citizens of the land.

[Kikapu]

BBF with political equality of the 2 states under one roof is the only way forward...

please answer yes or no, vp:

1. A BBF requires three governing bodies (at least) if it is based on a Bicommunal Principal.

2. i would accept a Maronite Constituency, Armenian Constituency, and even a Latin Constituency, along with a Greek Constituency, and a Turkish Constituency, if they are all equal.

3.for Justice to be Seen in Cyprus, a Right of Return, for some at least (from '63 and '74) they would return as they were forced to leave, as Communities.

1.YES
2.NO
3.WHERE PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE.

Who died and left you in charge to dictate who can get their properties back and who cannot?

Aside from public projects that are worthwhile keeping, is the ONLY time someone may not be able to physically get their properties back but compensated accordingly to the laws of Cyprus and not the illegal "trnc", but other than those few percentage cases, ALL the rest can be returned back to the original owners to do what the hell they wish to do with their own properties. Perhaps the present illegal occupants would like to buy the property from the original owner and if agreed upon by the seller and the buyer, then case closed, otherwise, you cannot dictate anything. This works for both side of the divide.

[kentish]

BBF with political equality of the 2 states under one roof is the only way forward...

please answer yes or no, vp:

1. A BBF requires three governing bodies (at least) if it is based on a Bicommunal Principal.

2. i would accept a Maronite Constituency, Armenian Constituency, and even a Latin Constituency, along with a Greek Constituency, and a Turkish Constituency, if they are all equal.

3.for Justice to be Seen in Cyprus, a Right of Return, for some at least (from '63 and '74) they would return as they were forced to leave, as Communities.

1.YES
2.NO
3.WHERE PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE.

Who died and left you in charge to dictate who can get their properties back and who cannot?

Aside from public projects that are worthwhile keeping, is the ONLY time someone may not be able to physically get their properties back but compensated accordingly to the laws of Cyprus and not the illegal "trnc", but other than those few percentage cases, ALL the rest can be returned back to the original owners to do what the hell they wish to do with their own properties. Perhaps the present illegal occupants would like to buy the property from the original owner and if agreed upon by the seller and the buyer, then case closed, otherwise, you cannot dictate anything. This works for both side of the divide.

i am impressed , just the one smilie. anyway when all this property is returned to the original owners to do what the hell they wish to do are these people going to give up the properties they have been using since 1974 ?

[repulsewarrior]

...interesting vp, i think we are all agreed on question one; are you kentish able to agree with the same question?

...are you suggesting that there are as Constituencies only Greeks and Turks? i am suggesting that there are many Living Relics to sustain; why not?

...if possible, indeed, and where it proves a benefit to the general prosperity of all Cypriots (question 3). Kikapu, the return of Individual Rights is unquestionable, and your examples are valid, however my question is more focused on the Rights as Persons, how we can demonstrate to ourselves our errors, thus, for some they will return as they left, not just as Individuals, but as whole communities.

...@kentish, of course; what are you getting at? and, i'll add, if Cypriots are now living on State land, should they get to keep it?

[Viewpoint]

...interesting vp, i think we are all agreed on question one; are you kentish able to agree with the same question?

...are you suggesting that there are as Constituencies only Greeks and Turks? i am suggesting that there are many Living Relics to sustain; why not?

...if possible, indeed, and where it proves a benefit to the general prosperity of all Cypriots (question 3). Kikapu, the return of Individual Rights is unquestionable, and your examples are valid, however my question is more focused on the Rights as Persons, how we can demonstrate to ourselves our errors, thus, for some they will return as they left, not just as Individuals, but as whole communities.

...@kentish, of course; what are you getting at? and, i'll add, if Cypriots are now living on State land, should they get to keep it?

How do you propose we give back land which has been developed to a degree of very high value...the refugee will get compensation at the going rate end of story.

[kentish]

...interesting vp, i think we are all agreed on question one; are you kentish able to agree with the same question?

...are you suggesting that there are as Constituencies only Greeks and Turks? i am suggesting that there are many Living Relics to sustain; why not?

...if possible, indeed, and where it proves a benefit to the general prosperity of all Cypriots (question 3). Kikapu, the return of Individual Rights is unquestionable, and your examples are valid, however my question is more focused on the Rights as Persons, how we can demonstrate to ourselves our errors, thus, for some they will return as they left, not just as Individuals, but as whole communities.

...@kentish, of course; what are you getting at? and, i'll add, if Cypriots are now living on State land, should they get to keep it?

its obvious what i am getting at.are you a complete retard and blinded by greed and prejudice and cannot see past stupid idealogy. since 1974 many people from both sides have been displaced and made a new life for themselves elsewhere. this elsewhere has worked for them and they have property in replacement for property they have lost. look at the practicalities