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US & Israel Demand Greek Naval Force in East Mediterranean

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:24 pm

US & Israel Demand Greek Naval Force in East Mediterranean - Avramopoulos Supports West

Monday, August 06, 2012 Hellas Frappe
http://hellasfrappe.blogspot.co.uk/2012 ... force.html
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It looks like Greece is heading towards "murkey' waters. The US and Israel are trying to involve our country in the conflict in the East Mediterranean, and are offering nothing in return for our participation. If Greece refuses then the super-powers will not be able to "guarantee" our country's safety ... that is if of course if the tension "accidentally" spills over to the wider region.

According to reports, Israeli officials -who are backed by the US- want to create a unique naval force in the Eastern Mediterranean (or task force) with three frigates from the Hellenic Navy, that will protect Cyprus' EEZ, since Israel's force is too weak to provide the proper assistance.

The agreement between Greece and Israel is expected to be sealed during Israeli President Shimon Peres' official trip in Athens, and will also include regular military exercises, particularly the sea area of Cyprus' EEZ.

Under other conditions the news would have probably been welcomed with open arms, because Greece needs such "strategic alliances", but the Greek Armed Forces have almost touched rock bottom because of the economic crisis.

Meanwhile, at the Greek Parliament, and following a relevant question by PASOK MP Andreas Loverdos, Foreign Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos shocked his conservative followers on Monday when he expressed his support for Turkey, and the Islamists and/or slaughtering mercenaries in Syria.

He said that the Assad regime has closed its cycle and it should step down from power (!). This is a clear stance in support to the Western factions who have waged war in Syria as opposed to Russia who is in favor of a UN peace plan. He noted that the Greek and the Christian population in the region will be protected, but let's face it, in war there are no guarantees and Avramopoulos did not disclose how these minorities will be protected.

Will Greece end up sending a fleet, or is the Greek government planning to politely ask these barbaric mercenaries to stop butchering innocent Greek Orthodox Christians?

Are you kidding us?

What is impressive is how Avramopoulos bowed so quickly to the will of the West, clearly angering and confusing conservative voters who are now convinced that he is in it for the long run and definitely not serving Greek interests. Perhaps if our government explained the situation to us, then we could begin to understand the "purpose" of a possible Greek involvement in Syria. But they can't because we all know that these so called rebels are not there to bring democracy to this region but want to topple the present governments there and allow the West, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to set up their own puppet governments there.

Why do we believe this... Look at what happened in Iraq and in Libya. Is this how the West views "democracy"? Tens of thousands of people have died. Hundreds of thousands of people have fled their countries and invaded other countries (Greece included). And the fighting hasn't stopped.

For what? So that crooked corporations can control the possible natural resources in these regions? Or because a couple of princes in Saudi Arabia and Qatar do not know how to spend their money and are funding wars against their own kind?

Is this what Avramopoulos supports?

Is this what the New Democracy party of Costas Karamanlis supported?

NOT ON YOUR LIFE MR. AVRAMOPOULOS.

You are not representing yourself everytime you open your mouth... but millions of Greek citizens!

Does the government of Antonis Samaras realize that by supporting this initiative it is also supporting Ankara and Turkish interests which are in favor of policing this region?

Or were they forced to agree because the mega interests in this region threatened them to do so?

Whatever the reason, they should realize that people live in this region not animals, and Syria is just the start of what could end up literally being WWIII!

The Greek government should have remained neutral on this issue. And they should admit that the Assad regime, is a secular regime, and until now it showed tremendous respect for the Greek Orthodox Christian minority there. Unlike the radical Islamists, or rebels, or mercenaries of democracy who have slaughtered tens of hundreds of Christians and at the same time devastated entire regions which were once populated with Christian Syrians.

Indeed. The joke is definitely on conservative voters today. The government of Antonis Samaras was supposed to follow a different policy than that of the Papandreou government, but from what it looks like they are beginning to walk on the same road and adopt the same policies. Shame... We predict elections... and soon!

Editor's Note - Shame... Who does Avramopoulos work for... Greek national interests or the West? We conservatives want and DEMAND to know.


References
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/index. ... Itemid=139
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/index. ... Itemid=139
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Re: US & Israel Demand Greek Naval Force in East Mediterrane

Postby kimon07 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:36 am

I don't agree with the critisism of this article. I really can't understand how the authors and the analysts of this magazine think.

First they complain that Greece is not active in the developments in the region and that its influence has diminished and now they complain because the US and Israel are offering to Greece the chance to increase its influence? Schizophrenic.

I believe that Greece MUST grab the opportunity and send ships to the region and form a task force with Israel to protect Cyprus. Israel is capable to provide the necessary air support for this force. OK. Its the issue of the costs. Well, am sure, if the Americans want it so badly they would not mind covering the costs of the Greek navy. Apart from anything else, this, according to me, is also a strong message to Turkey by the US that something is changing in respect to the role of Turkey in the region and that its bullying tactics will not be tolerated.
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Re: US & Israel Demand Greek Naval Force in East Mediterrane

Postby kimon07 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:21 am

The report from a different media and a different angle of view.

Joint exercises between Greece and Israel in Cyprus EEZ
06/08/2012 02:45

Athens and Tel Aviv will go into aeronautical joint exercises in Cyprus Exclusive Economic Zone, with the consent and assistance of Nicosia of course, according to reports revealing the Cypriot Sigma.
The agreement between Greece and Israel - always according to the Cyprus average - is to be sealed during the official visit of President Shimon Peres of Israel in Athens at the invitation and to return the visit of Greek counterpart in Israel, Karolos Papoulias.
According to Sigma «the most important" point of contact between the two sides would be to agree on "regular military exercises, especially in the marine area of the EEZ of Cyprus with the participation of three Greek warships."


http://www.defence-point.gr/news/?p=55148
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Re: US & Israel Demand Greek Naval Force in East Mediterrane

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:04 pm

kimon07 wrote:The report from a different media and a different angle of view.

Joint exercises between Greece and Israel in Cyprus EEZ
06/08/2012 02:45

Athens and Tel Aviv will go into aeronautical joint exercises in Cyprus Exclusive Economic Zone, with the consent and assistance of Nicosia of course, according to reports revealing the Cypriot Sigma.
The agreement between Greece and Israel - always according to the Cyprus average - is to be sealed during the official visit of President Shimon Peres of Israel in Athens at the invitation and to return the visit of Greek counterpart in Israel, Karolos Papoulias.
According to Sigma «the most important" point of contact between the two sides would be to agree on "regular military exercises, especially in the marine area of the EEZ of Cyprus with the participation of three Greek warships."


http://www.defence-point.gr/news/?p=55148


this looks to be a far more credible story than those carried in the Hellas Frappe blog reports - in particular the presstv report
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Re: US & Israel Demand Greek Naval Force in East Mediterrane

Postby kimon07 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:21 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
kimon07 wrote:The report from a different media and a different angle of view.

Joint exercises between Greece and Israel in Cyprus EEZ


http://www.defence-point.gr/news/?p=55148


this looks to be a far more credible story than those carried in the Hellas Frappe blog reports - in particular the presstv report


Absolutely. Hope it materialises.
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