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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby kimon07 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:45 am

Me Ed wrote:In reality modern Greece is an irrelevance when compared to ancient Greece.


True. Like all other countries in the world.
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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby Me Ed » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:04 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:In reality modern Greece is an irrelevance when compared to ancient Greece.


True. Like all other countries in the world.

Utter rubbish.

Classical antiquity ended with the murder of Hypatia in AD415 by Greek Christians.

The world was then in a period known as The Dark Ages for 1000 years until the European Age of Elightenment, where ideas from classical antiquity were reintroduced and expanded on, a period which is still on-going.

This had nothing to do with the Greeks because they had largely abandoned ideas from classical antiquity in favour of Christianity.

Had it not been for those non-Greek thinkers of the Age of Enlightenment, Greece and the wider Europe would be a backwards theocracy, much like the islamic world today.

I don't know where modern Greeks have the audacity to swoop in and take the credit for ideas bourne out of the Age of Enlightenment when it had nothing to do with them.
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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby kimon07 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:33 pm

Me Ed wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:In reality modern Greece is an irrelevance when compared to ancient Greece.


True. Like all other countries in the world.

Utter rubbish.

Classical antiquity ended with the murder of Hypatia in AD415 by Greek Christians.

The world was then in a period known as The Dark Ages for 1000 years until the European Age of Elightenment, where ideas from classical antiquity were reintroduced and expanded on, a period which is still on-going.


Reintroduced through Venice by the Greeks who were fleeing from Byzantine territories which were falling to the Ottomans and through Spain by the Arabs who studied intensively and adopted extensively Greek sciences and medicine and mathematics and everything else. So, as Europeans, we are all indebted to the Byzantine Greeks and to the Arabs for that.

by the Arabs through Spain.
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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby Me Ed » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:38 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:In reality modern Greece is an irrelevance when compared to ancient Greece.


True. Like all other countries in the world.

Utter rubbish.

Classical antiquity ended with the murder of Hypatia in AD415 by Greek Christians.

The world was then in a period known as The Dark Ages for 1000 years until the European Age of Elightenment, where ideas from classical antiquity were reintroduced and expanded on, a period which is still on-going.


Reintroduced through Venice by the Greeks who were fleeing from Byzantine territories which were falling to the Ottomans and through Spain by the Arabs who studied intensively and adopted extensively Greek sciences and medicine and mathematics and everything else. So, as Europeans, we are all indebted to the Byzantine Greeks and to the Arabs for that.

by the Arabs through Spain.

Not a single mention of Greeks or Arabs here ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_enlightenment
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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby SKI-preo » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:05 pm

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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby Sotos » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:20 pm

Me Ed wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:In reality modern Greece is an irrelevance when compared to ancient Greece.


True. Like all other countries in the world.

Utter rubbish.

Classical antiquity ended with the murder of Hypatia in AD415 by Greek Christians.

The world was then in a period known as The Dark Ages for 1000 years until the European Age of Elightenment, where ideas from classical antiquity were reintroduced and expanded on, a period which is still on-going.


Reintroduced through Venice by the Greeks who were fleeing from Byzantine territories which were falling to the Ottomans and through Spain by the Arabs who studied intensively and adopted extensively Greek sciences and medicine and mathematics and everything else. So, as Europeans, we are all indebted to the Byzantine Greeks and to the Arabs for that.

by the Arabs through Spain.

Not a single mention of Greeks or Arabs here ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_enlightenment


This is what took Europe out of the Dark Ages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance (lots about Greeks there ;) )
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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:08 pm

Sotos wrote:This is what took Europe out of the Dark Ages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance (lots about Greeks there ;) )

Was that after Greeks were taken out of THEIR dark ages by Cypriots? :lol:
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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:13 pm

kimon07 wrote:Because you are a new member i consider it my duty to protect you from future embarassments. So, let me educate you a bit:

You mean you're going to propagate the usual Greek propaganda that...

1. There was such a thing as "Greece" or "Greeks" at a time when there wasn't.

2. That the ancients of the Balkan region are the direct ancestors of modern Greeks!

And the best…

3. That you, a Cypriot, are somehow related to these Balkan ancients!


:lol:
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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:31 pm

So GR! would argue that Cyprus never existed before 1960.
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Re: What's so great about Greece?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:40 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:So GR! would argue that Cyprus never existed before 1960.

The beauty of Cyprus over Greece is that it’s an island so her name and outline were well defined from the very onset.

Greece however was just a small southern extension of the European landmass so borders were either non existent or frequently modified.
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