Hyder wrote:On what basis do Greeks have such an inflated sense of their relative importance in the scheme of things?
I'm not sure what else anybody might suggest but to be sure it won't be plumbing.
B25 wrote:Only a twat would feel the need to ask such a question.
Hyder wrote:On what basis do Greeks have such an inflated sense of their relative importance in the scheme of things?
Get Real! wrote:Hyder wrote:On what basis do Greeks have such an inflated sense of their relative importance in the scheme of things?
Seriously, on the basis that Greeks are the fathers of the most influential tool ever invented by man…
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yialousa1971 wrote:Get Real! wrote:Hyder wrote:On what basis do Greeks have such an inflated sense of their relative importance in the scheme of things?
Seriously, on the basis that Greeks are the fathers of the most influential tool ever invented by man…
LIES & PROPAGANDA
It’s a simple but lengthy process which goes like this:
Story > Legend > Factoid
bill cobbett wrote:Yialoser's been eating his cooking again...
Hyder wrote:
When we are talking about developing the founding principles on which future innovations rely personally I'd say on the whole it is China
Hyder wrote:
All of medicine, science & maths? I shudder at how narrow your education is if you truly believe this. In these spheres it is only geometry in which the Greeks have unargued bragging rights, i.e. one part of maths. Even this is questionable. Maybe they didn't name it but whoever the civil engineer was for the pyramids must have known how to work out angles
Ancient Greek medicine
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The first known Greek medical school opened in Cnidus in 700 BC. Alcmaeon, author of the first anatomical work, worked at this school, and it was here that the practice of observing patients was established. Ancient Greek medicine revolved around the theory of humours. The most important figure in ancient Greek medicine is the physician Hippocrates, known as the "Father of Medicine", who established his own medical school at Cos.[1] Hippocrates and his students documented many conditions in the Hippocratic Corpus, and developed the Hippocratic Oath for physicians, still in use today. The Greek Galen was one of the greatest surgeons of the ancient world and performed many audacious operations—including brain and eye surgeries— that were not tried again for almost two millennia. The writings of Hippocrates, Galen, and others, like Socrates, had a lasting influence on Islamic medicine and Medieval European medicine.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_medicine
What We Can Learn From Ancient Greek Medicine
By Neil Osterweil
WebMD Feature
Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario
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Still, modern medicine is riddled with relics of ancient Greek science, from versions of the Oath of Hippocrates that some graduating medical students still utter ("I swear by Apollo, the Physician and Asclepius and Hygeia and Panacea and all the gods and goddesses ..."), to the techno-jargon that doctors spout. According to Dorland's Illustrated Medical Dictionary, nearly 90% of medical terms used today have Greek or Latin roots. So the next time someone tells you you've got hyperkeratosis, you can reply, "I don't know what it is, but it's Greek to me!"
Yet apart from confusing technical terms and solemn oaths, do we really owe the ancients any thanks for modern medical wisdom? It depends on what bits of medical wisdom you value, historians say.
Humor Me
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"Hippocrates is generally credited with turning away from divine notions of medicine and using observation of the body as a basis for medical knowledge. Prayers and sacrifices to the gods did not hold a central place in his theories, but changes in diet, beneficial drugs, and keeping the body 'in balance' were the key," notes an article on the National Library of Medicine's History of Medicine division web site.
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Nearly 60 treatises on everything from diagnosis, infectious diseases, pediatrics, and surgery have been attributed to Hippocrates, but these works, known as Hippocrates' "corpus" were probably penned by several different authors spread out over a couple of centuries, and the treatises often contradict one another,
Teaching New Docs Old Tricks
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But by the middle of the third century B.C., doctors in Alexandria, Egypt, were beginning to conduct systematic dissections of animals and human bodies, and even (if you're squeamish, you may want to skip this part) vivisection (dissection of a living body).
The knowledge of anatomy gained through these practices was put to use by another famous doc of antiquity, known only as Galen. Born in Asia Minor in the year 131, Galen earned his reputation as a surgeon to the gladiators of Pergamos, an ancient Greek city located in what is now Turkey.
After nearly four years of patching up hacked-up combatants, Galen moved to Rome where he soon gained fame as an anatomist and as a doctor to Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius and three of his successors.
Galen wrote on anatomy, physiology (how the body functions), and treatment; his surviving works (many which were lost after the fall of the Roman Empire in the fifth century, later to be rediscovered in the libraries of the Moorish empire) had a profound influence on European medicine.
What's Old Is New
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In about the middle of the first century A.D., she notes, the Latin writer Scribonius Largus cited the Hippocratic Oath in support of his anti-abortion position. "His argument is that medicine is an art of healing, therefore abortion is not right," Hanson says. "And then 50 years later you get the Greek doctor Soranus actually quoting the Oath, and saying yeah, but there's another treatise in the corpus that does permit abortion, and therefore I'm going to follow that because there are times when you have to abort because the woman is going to die without it."
Some things never change.
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In Greek antiquity, medicine was second to mathematics. Ancient Greek Civilization was at its peak during the 400's BC. During this period of time, sick people went to the temples dedicated to Asclepius, the Greek god of healing. At this time, a man named Hippocrates began teaching that every disease had only natural causes. He is known as the great ancient Greek physician. In medicine, doctors still refer to the Hippocratic oath, instituted by Hippocrates, who is also credited with laying the foundations of medicine as a science.
Galen built on Hippocrates' theory of the four humors, and his writings became the foundation of medicine in Europe and the Middle East for centuries. The Greek physicians Herophilos and Paulus Aegineta were pioneers in the study of anatomy, while Pedanius Dioscorides wrote an extensive treatise on the practice of pharmacology.
Hippocrates was the first physician known who actually considered medicine to be a science, and to be separate from religion. He wrote the Hippocratic oath, an oath that every new doctor-to-be still says to this day. It reflected Hippocrates high ideals.
Hippocrates of Kos (c. 460 BCΠc. 380 BC) was an ancient Greek physician. He has been called "the father of medicine", and is commonly regarded as one of the most outstanding figures in medicine of all time. He was a physician trained at the Dream temple of Kos, and may have been a pupil of Herodicus. Writings attributed to him (Corpus hippocraticum, or "Hippocratic writings") rejected the superstition and magic of primitive "medicine" and laid the foundations of medicine as a branch of science. Little is actually known about Hippocrates's personal life, but some of his medical achievements were documented by such people as Plato and Aristotle.
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