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[boulio]

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/is-the ... sCatID=425


Things must be getting really bad in the north if this zealot is writing these things

[Get Real!]

Good post Boulio. Best line...

"Turkey never, ever had a policy of promoting the Turkish Cypriot state or acquiring its international recognition."

[humanist]

isn't that interesting Turkey never pushed for the recognition of the trnc what a perfect way to have an Army Base in one Country all it takes is 55,000 gullibles and 500,000 stakeholders

[GreekIslandGirl]

Interesting comment by Robert Ellis:

The European Court of Human Rights has long held that the TRNC is a subordinate local administration of Turkey, so Yusuf's recognition of this fact, although belated, is still welcome.

[barouti]

I'll tend to be more cynical than be ready to applaud Yusuf. Hurriyet is anti-AKP and kemalist and this article reeks as nothing more than an opportunity to take a shot at Erdogan accusing him of trying to "control" the occupied north rather than promote it as an "indepedent" and "sovereign" state. Just read the article again, its obvious, Yusuf-abi clearly supports a permanent partition based on turco-kibroglu statehood. His article is directed at Turkish nationalists that Erdogan is threatening the "future statehood" of the occupied north. Becuase if Yusuf-abi had at least admitted that the invasion in 1974 was always about taksim then maybe I would have raised an eyebrow. But instead he's just found an opportunity to criticise Erdogan as if the previous kemalist governments, both civilian and military, never had annexation in mind to begin with.

[GreekIslandGirl]

I'll tend to be more cynical than be ready to applaud Yusuf. Hurriyet is anti-AKP and kemalist and this article reeks as nothing more than an opportunity to take a shot at Erdogan accusing him of trying to "control" the occupied north rather than promote it as an "indepedent" and "sovereign" state. Just read the article again, its obvious, Yusuf-abi clearly supports a permanent partition based on turco-kibroglu statehood. His article is directed at Turkish nationalists that Erdogan is threatening the "future statehood" of the occupied north. Becuase if Yusuf-abi had at least admitted that the invasion in 1974 was always about taksim then maybe I would have raised an eyebrow. But instead he's just found an opportunity to criticise Erdogan as if the previous kemalist governments, both civilian and military, never had annexation in mind to begin with.

I would have to agree with your cynicism and noted how he used the term "war of attrition". This directly proves your point. The game Turkey is playing is one of annexing the whole island whilst the TCs blindly sit back thinking they are going to get half for themselves.

[Kikapu]

I'll tend to be more cynical than be ready to applaud Yusuf. Hurriyet is anti-AKP and kemalist and this article reeks as nothing more than an opportunity to take a shot at Erdogan accusing him of trying to "control" the occupied north rather than promote it as an "indepedent" and "sovereign" state. Just read the article again, its obvious, Yusuf-abi clearly supports a permanent partition based on turco-kibroglu statehood. His article is directed at Turkish nationalists that Erdogan is threatening the "future statehood" of the occupied north. Becuase if Yusuf-abi had at least admitted that the invasion in 1974 was always about taksim then maybe I would have raised an eyebrow. But instead he's just found an opportunity to criticise Erdogan as if the previous kemalist governments, both civilian and military, never had annexation in mind to begin with.

I would have to agree with your cynicism and noted how he used the term "war of attrition". This directly proves your point. The game Turkey is playing is one of annexing the whole island whilst the TCs blindly sit back thinking they are going to get half for themselves.

Annan Plan in 2004 would have completed that accomplishment for Turkey had it been approved by the GCs.

[humanist]

greekislandgirl

interesting comment by Robert Ellis:

The European Court of Human Rights has long held that the TRNC is a subordinate local administration of Turkey, so Yusuf's recognition of this fact, although belated, is still welcome.

What is interesting the British recognise the fact, but what is more interesting is the manner in which the rest of the International community has behaved by doing nothing

[Get Real!]

What is interesting the British recognise the fact, but what is more interesting is the manner in which the rest of the International community has behaved by doing nothing

The international community is doing exactly what the people of the RoC keep telling it to!

We keep telling the international community that we don’t come from Cyprus because we are not really Cypriots but Greeks! We even go as far as elaborating a story from 3,000 ago when “we” first arrived here!

We then reinforce this story by constantly demonstrating that we don’t like the Cypriot flag but that of Greece!

So I think it’s time we admitted that the international community is behaving very fair under the circumstances because they are thinking...

“If these people aren’t Cypriots and those people in the north aren’t Cypriots then there’s absolutely no reason why anyone should be booted off the island!”

So do you still find the international community’s behavior interesting now that someone has explained it to you Andreas?

Of course not! It is most predictable.

[repulsewarrior]

...and yet i ask where is the Greek Constituency to an audience which does not dare answer.

i ask, is Cyprus a Greek state, still the deafening silence.

what is a Cypriot State, the closest i get to an answer is nothing.

...and all of you still repeating the same falseness, as though Bicommunal means dividing the island in two.

asiktere, except for very few, hypocrites no better than "Turks", because your "Greekness" cannot, will not, disentangle itself from the State, unable to accept what Freedom this offers, selfishly unrelenting, unable to consider a Greek state, equal to a Turkish state, but in service to the Cypriot State above it.

...fools, your elite will waste the beauty that is what makes Cyprus so beautiful, its inclusiveness, because it is impossible for you to be Human first, and as Humans representing a Cypriot expression of it; just "Greeks", stupid "Greeks", not Greeks.