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How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:50 am

...you know kentish, stealing as the Turkish Army has, it is very easy for you to enjoy the benefits supporting them, if only the rest of the world believed in your administration's authority. making up this fear that you'll be stabbed in the back, etc. is nothing but character assassintion, i guess you would be afraid to be with me, because i am Greek, does that really sound like a good fix on reality/ is this a good idea to base a whole life on?

...you sound rather cold denying the lives of 100 of thousands, not realistic that they will all consider their land mere property. you sound just like the theif, to be so worried about knives in the back.

i don't know what your saying about the other members' want or don't want, some are harsh with you indeed, you in my opinion act like a troll too often, and at times there is hope because you offer insite, anyway Cyprus is important to all of us, but it is as you say, you can be the personna that you are, in this Internet world, and act accordingly.

...kentish, you are a Human Being, a member of a larger family, whether you act as a "Turk" or a Turk, i say this is where your Legacy must glow.

if you love this island, say, i love Cyprus.
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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:21 pm

can we stop this stupidity about stealing. there is is stolen tc lands in the south too. he with no sin cast the first stone my friends.
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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:47 pm

so, read my manifesto.

understand that there is a Cyprus, and if you love Cyprus say, i love Cyprus.
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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:15 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:so, read my manifesto.

understand that there is a Cyprus, and if you love Cyprus say, i love Cyprus.


I have always been of the view that every Cypriot, whether Greek Speaking or Turkish Speaking, should (with certain very limited exceptions) be entitled to the return of their property whether in the North or South, that they may have been forced to abandon at any time since say 1958. That or the fair market price

The few exceptions would be land that has been appropriated for the construction of major infrastructure projects such as the Nicosia/Limassol Highway, (or similar schemes) Schools or Hospitals or eg Larnaca airport or power stations but not for general government buildings used purely for admin and certainly not land taken for purely commercial development such as housing and access roads to such housing or other commercial developments.
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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:55 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:so, read my manifesto.

understand that there is a Cyprus, and if you love Cyprus say, i love Cyprus.


I have always been of the view that every Cypriot, whether Greek Speaking or Turkish Speaking, should (with certain very limited exceptions) be entitled to the return of their property whether in the North or South, that they may have been forced to abandon at any time since say 1958. That or the fair market price

The few exceptions would be land that has been appropriated for the construction of major infrastructure projects such as the Nicosia/Limassol Highway, (or similar schemes) Schools or Hospitals or eg Larnaca airport or power stations but not for general government buildings used purely for admin and certainly not land taken for purely commercial development such as housing and access roads to such housing or other commercial developments.



So how would deal with a 30 million dollar hotel being built on disputed land? be it in the south or north?
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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:so, read my manifesto.

understand that there is a Cyprus, and if you love Cyprus say, i love Cyprus.


I have always been of the view that every Cypriot, whether Greek Speaking or Turkish Speaking, should (with certain very limited exceptions) be entitled to the return of their property whether in the North or South, that they may have been forced to abandon at any time since say 1958. That or the fair market price

The few exceptions would be land that has been appropriated for the construction of major infrastructure projects such as the Nicosia/Limassol Highway, (or similar schemes) Schools or Hospitals or eg Larnaca airport or power stations but not for general government buildings used purely for admin and certainly not land taken for purely commercial development such as housing and access roads to such housing or other commercial developments.



So how would deal with a 30 million dollar hotel being built on disputed land? be it in the south or north?



simple, the parties negotiate.

...rent and compensation, shares, euphructary rights, none of this is unusual or difficult.

at the extreme, (no agreement), tear it down; do you have such a hotel built on your land?
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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:42 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:so, read my manifesto.

understand that there is a Cyprus, and if you love Cyprus say, i love Cyprus.


I have always been of the view that every Cypriot, whether Greek Speaking or Turkish Speaking, should (with certain very limited exceptions) be entitled to the return of their property whether in the North or South, that they may have been forced to abandon at any time since say 1958. That or the fair market price

The few exceptions would be land that has been appropriated for the construction of major infrastructure projects such as the Nicosia/Limassol Highway, (or similar schemes) Schools or Hospitals or eg Larnaca airport or power stations but not for general government buildings used purely for admin and certainly not land taken for purely commercial development such as housing and access roads to such housing or other commercial developments.



So how would deal with a 30 million dollar hotel being built on disputed land? be it in the south or north?



simple, the parties negotiate.

...rent and compensation, shares, euphructary rights, none of this is unusual or difficult.

at the extreme, (no agreement), tear it down; do you have such a hotel built on your land?


Compensation is the name of the game the previous owners get compensated at today prices...I would never demand that GCs rip down a 30 million dollar investment...give me compensation at todays prices and I will be happy....but the majority of Gcs will never agree to this nor will their leaders allow it.
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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby Me Ed » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:42 am

Lordo wrote:can we stop this stupidity about stealing. there is is stolen tc lands in the south too. he with no sin cast the first stone my friends.

No, because its not being appropriated for the benefit of TCs in the occupied area pending a solution, but for the benefit of Turkish big business and citizens, or foreign property buyers, so its theft.
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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:23 am

not at all. most tcs were given esdeger gc land in the 70s for the land they had stolen from them in the south. what they did with it because of the embargoes is the responsibility of the roc. the lands were definitely stolen in the south. if a man has land and his government says you can't have it back then it is stolen my friend. no ifs and no buts.
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Re: How to solve the Cyprus problem (2006)

Postby Me Ed » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:31 am

Embargoes make life difficult = Turkish citizens migrate there for a better life.

Somethings definitely wrong with that equation! :shock:

GCs and TCs have a reciprocal arrangement pending a solution, Turkish business interests and it's citizens is theft.
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