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[CBBB]

Some one who does not want to share on an equal basis will provide many excuses......reh Pit-r-ass?

Blah, blah, blah.

[Piratis]

Equal basis means one person one vote. It is you who does not want to share on an equal basis as it happens in all other democratic countries in the world, and it is you who is trying to find excuses for the racist and undemocratic crap that you demand.

What you want is that 5 GCs are equated to 1 TC and that the crime of ethnic cleansing that you committed is legalized so you can Turkify the north part of our island.

[Viewpoint]

Equal basis means one person one vote. It is you who does not want to share on an equal basis as it happens in all other democratic countries in the world, and it is you who is trying to find excuses for the racist and undemocratic crap that you demand.

What you want is that 5 GCs are equated to 1 TC and that the crime of ethnic cleansing that you committed is legalized so you can Turkify the north part of our island.

Of course one person one vote will be the voting system its the structure of how those votes create a leadership which is more important.

If we allow the GC vote to elect only GC parties or GC MPs or the sole authority to change and apply laws then we TCs are well and truely f-cked.

[Me Ed]

Of course one person one vote will be the voting system its the structure of how those votes create a leadership which is more important.

If we allow the GC vote to elect only GC parties or GC MPs or the sole authority to change and apply laws then we TCs are well and truely f-cked.

VP,

comments like this really expose how little you know about how local politics work.

How on earth are GCs going to elect GC parties or GC MPs in a TC controlled federal state in a BBF?

[Lordo]

People are still dreaming... it is as if they want partition to last for ever... we already have two communities living under partition... the question is how to bring them together... a rotating presidency need not be permanent... indeed it may lead to something better... full integration... this is because a rotating presidency ensures that the Greek Cypriot president has to appeal to the Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriot president has to appeal to the Greek Cypriots... thus unifying the discourse... to those who say that this is a compromise with segregation... wake up!... we are already segregated... this can only bring us together... to the point where maybe we will then chose to drop the rotating presidency in favor of one person one vote... but we are not going to have one person one vote immediately... whilst the existing constitution promotes bickering... the rotating presidency forces us together... I know some people will see this as an injustice... the Turks are after all the colonisers... they would rather that we succeed like the Africans in South Africa... or even Zimbabwe... but maybe one might think what a rotating presidency in South Africa might have done for the country... it would have been a grave injustice against the indigenous Africans... just as a rotating presidency is an injustice against Greek Cypriots... but think about it... South Africa might be even further ahead than it is now... with "Whites" who appeal to "Blacks" and "Blacks" who appeal to "Whites" running the show... South Africa is still deeply segregated after all... but who knows... that is for the South Africans to decide... but in Cyprus the opposition to a rotating presidency stems from an obvious right-wing fear that only the left could appeal to both sides so we will be stuck with a communist president, be s/he Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot... this is the real fear... and one we must overcome...

I'll go with that as long as they have a rotating premiership in the uk between Englsh , Scotish, and Welsh members without voting.
Seems only normal afterall a? Pelo plasma.

There we agree. I would go along with the new system in UK.

Scotland have their own parliament and prime minister as well as mps in london.

now that looks like a system that will work.

turkish cypriots can have the trnc parliment and mps in the roc, deal?

[Me Ed]

People are still dreaming... it is as if they want partition to last for ever... we already have two communities living under partition... the question is how to bring them together... a rotating presidency need not be permanent... indeed it may lead to something better... full integration... this is because a rotating presidency ensures that the Greek Cypriot president has to appeal to the Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriot president has to appeal to the Greek Cypriots... thus unifying the discourse... to those who say that this is a compromise with segregation... wake up!... we are already segregated... this can only bring us together... to the point where maybe we will then chose to drop the rotating presidency in favor of one person one vote... but we are not going to have one person one vote immediately... whilst the existing constitution promotes bickering... the rotating presidency forces us together... I know some people will see this as an injustice... the Turks are after all the colonisers... they would rather that we succeed like the Africans in South Africa... or even Zimbabwe... but maybe one might think what a rotating presidency in South Africa might have done for the country... it would have been a grave injustice against the indigenous Africans... just as a rotating presidency is an injustice against Greek Cypriots... but think about it... South Africa might be even further ahead than it is now... with "Whites" who appeal to "Blacks" and "Blacks" who appeal to "Whites" running the show... South Africa is still deeply segregated after all... but who knows... that is for the South Africans to decide... but in Cyprus the opposition to a rotating presidency stems from an obvious right-wing fear that only the left could appeal to both sides so we will be stuck with a communist president, be s/he Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot... this is the real fear... and one we must overcome...

I'll go with that as long as they have a rotating premiership in the uk between Englsh , Scotish, and Welsh members without voting.
Seems only normal afterall a? Pelo plasma.

There we agree. I would go along with the new system in UK.

Scotland have their own parliament and prime minister as well as mps in london.

now that looks like a system that will work.

turkish cypriots can have the trnc parliment and mps in the roc, deal?

Sure it can Lordo, but only if, like in the UK, the proportion of TC MPs is proportional to the respective population (1 TC MP for every 4 GC MPs) at the federal level.

Also the TC parliament should also be responsible for setting its own local taxes to fund any schemes in it's zone.

Deal?

[Lordo]

So long as top level cannot force any laws on to lower levels. you have a deal.
And of course the top level will supplement any shortfall in income for the lower level like it is in the uk.

you see it can be done.

[GreekIslandGirl]

People are still dreaming... it is as if they want partition to last for ever... we already have two communities living under partition... the question is how to bring them together... a rotating presidency need not be permanent... indeed it may lead to something better... full integration... this is because a rotating presidency ensures that the Greek Cypriot president has to appeal to the Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriot president has to appeal to the Greek Cypriots... thus unifying the discourse... to those who say that this is a compromise with segregation... wake up!... we are already segregated... this can only bring us together... to the point where maybe we will then chose to drop the rotating presidency in favor of one person one vote... but we are not going to have one person one vote immediately... whilst the existing constitution promotes bickering... the rotating presidency forces us together... I know some people will see this as an injustice... the Turks are after all the colonisers... they would rather that we succeed like the Africans in South Africa... or even Zimbabwe... but maybe one might think what a rotating presidency in South Africa might have done for the country... it would have been a grave injustice against the indigenous Africans... just as a rotating presidency is an injustice against Greek Cypriots... but think about it... South Africa might be even further ahead than it is now... with "Whites" who appeal to "Blacks" and "Blacks" who appeal to "Whites" running the show... South Africa is still deeply segregated after all... but who knows... that is for the South Africans to decide... but in Cyprus the opposition to a rotating presidency stems from an obvious right-wing fear that only the left could appeal to both sides so we will be stuck with a communist president, be s/he Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot... this is the real fear... and one we must overcome...

I'll go with that as long as they have a rotating premiership in the uk between Englsh , Scotish, and Welsh members without voting.
Seems only normal afterall a? Pelo plasma.

There we agree. I would go along with the new system in UK.

Scotland have their own parliament and prime minister as well as mps in london.

now that looks like a system that will work.

turkish cypriots can have the trnc parliment and mps in the roc, deal?

Scotland belongs to the Scottish. They did not invade and ethnically cleanse Scotland of English people, take their homes, and then call the country their own! This ethnic cleansing and stealing of properties from their rightful owners is something only TCs have done - are DOING! Such people deserve a prison sentence not votes!

[Lordo]

And the greek cypriots did not take an turkish cypriot lands right?

you keep going back. look forward or you will walk into a lamppost one day.

Of course the above agreement has to include opening ercan, gecitkale airports and magusa and girne ports to international trade.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Go away thieving, murdering invaders. You are ruining Cyprus (and the world).