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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:10 am

...why not, what you say is bullshit; you are a whore.

if you are a Cypriot, say it.
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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:15 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...why not, what you say is bullshit; you are a whore.

if you are a Cypriot, say it.



What have you been drinking? I will warn you one more time if you continue to swear I will respond with even worse language "ADMIN BE WARNED"
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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:34 am

...warning?

you will react in kind, idiot.
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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby MGCN » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:06 am

humanist wrote:MGCN I am thinking in spirit of reconciliation perhaps the RoC can support displaced people of both dominant communities. Ultimately it is the RoC that will have to foot the bill in an event of Reunification.


In the spirit of reconciliation I guess the RoC can support people of both communities, but that was not the question was it? currently a subset of TCs are treated differently to the rest of the TC and GC population and as such it is highly unlikely that this will mean they can get the same support as the GC refugees have.
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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby Lordo » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:21 am

repulsive warrior getting angry surves no purpose what so ever. you will not win any friends that way. softly softly approach works much better.

trust me.
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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby DT. » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:00 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...warning?

you will react in kind, idiot.

:lol: wtf happened to Repulse!!!
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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby halil » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:03 am

humanist wrote:Does the RoC consider TC's who lived in the now current Free area of Cyprus, but moved to the now occupied area after the 1974 events as refugees?

Would these people be entitled to government grants to build a house on their land in the Free area should they choose to return?


Appendix I
VIENNA III AGREEMENT– 2 AUGUST 1975 (UN DOCUMENT S/11789)
1. The Turkish Cypriots at present in the South of the Island will be allowed, if they want to do so, to proceed North with their belongings under an organized programme and with the assistance of UNFICYP.
2. Mr. Denktash reaffirmed, and it was agreed, that the Greek Cypriots at present in the North of the Island are free to stay and that they will be given every help to lead a normal life, including facilities for education and for the practice of their religion, as well as medical care by their own doctors and freedom of movement in the North.
3. The Greek Cypriots at present in the North who, at their own request and without having been subjected to any kind of pressure, wish to move to the South will be permitted to do so.
4. UNFICYP will have free and normal access to Greek Cypriot villages and habitations in the North.
5. In connection with the implementation of the above agreement priority will be given to the re-unification of families, which may also involve the transfer of a number of Greek Cypriots, at present in the South, to the North..................
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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby halil » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:24 am

report to read from :The Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre !!!!!

away from the Greek and Turkish propaganda machines .......

http://www.internal-displacement.org/80 ... pInfoFiles)/94CBD5921CA280ECC12573B50039AF47/$file/Cyprus%20-December%202007.pdf
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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby halil » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:32 am

A long-standing conflict
The roots of modern displacement in Cyprus date back to British colonial rule. After decades of growing dissatisfaction with British leadership, Greek and Turkish Cypriots organised separate armed movements against the British in the late 1950s. While the Greek Cypriots were calling for union with Greece, Turkish Cypriots were demanding partition of the island into Greek and Turkish zones. Britain renounced sovereignty over Cyprus, and a 1960 agreement with the governments of Greece and Turkey as well as Greek and Turkish Cypriot leaders established an independent Republic of Cyprus with a power-sharing arrangement between the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities. However, neither the Greek nor the Turkish Cypriots were satisfied with the agreement as it rejected their respective demands (ICG, 8 March 2006, p.1; TESEV, 30 April 2005, p.20).
The power-sharing arrangement broke down in 1963. After many disputes, the Greek Cypriot leadership proposed thirteen constitutional amendments to make the constitution more workable, one of which included modifying the number of Greek and Turkish Cypriot civil servants to reflect their respective population ratios (Chrysostomides, 2000, p.33). Turkish Cypriot government officials rejected these proposals, stating that political protections for Turkish Cypriots would be removed. They withdrew from their posts, and the bi-communal arrangement collapsed (ICG, 8 March 2006; Coufoudakis, 2006, p.7). Violence between Greek and Turkish Cypriots ensued and hundreds were killed (191 Turkish Cypriots and 133 Greek Cypriots) or disappeared (209 Turkish Cypriots and 41 Greek Cypriots) (TESEV, 30 April 2005, p.27). Over 25,000 Turkish Cypriots and several hundred Greek Cypriots fled their homes, with Turkish Cypriots seeking refuge in guarded enclaves (ICG, 8 March 2006; Scott 1998, p.145; TESEV, 30 April 2005, p.27; Hannay, 2005, p.4). The United Nations Peacekeeping Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP) was established in 1964, but intermittent violence continued nevertheless (Hannay, 2005, p.4). Turkish Cypriot government members never returned to their posts and instead formed a separate administrative body for the Turkish Cypriot community.
The situation erupted again in July 1974 when the Greek Cypriot government was ousted in a coup engineered by the government of Greece (Coufoudakis, 2006, p. 5). Within days, Turkey invaded and intercommunal violence broke out in addition to the Turkish military operation,
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leading to the death and disappearance of some 3,000 Greek and Turkish Cypriots, as well as Greek and Turkish military personnel (TESEV, 30 April 2005, p.35). By the time a ceasefire came into effect in mid-August, Turkish troops had gained control of 37 per cent of the island and from 183,000 to 242,000 people had been displaced (ICG, 8 March 2006; Coufoudakis, 2006, p.85). This included between 142,000 and 182,000 Greek Cypriots and between 41,000 and 60,000 Turkish Cypriots (PRIO, 7 March 2006; Republic of Cyprus, 27 September 2007; TESEV, 30 April 2005; Coufoudakis, 2006, p.88; European Commission of Human Rights, 10 July 1976; Palley, 2005 p.173; USCR, 1998, p.172).
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Re: REFUGEE Related Question

Postby halil » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:36 am

Over the next years, increasingly separate Greek and Turkish Cypriot zones were created. Greek Cypriots fled to the southern part of the island as Turkish troops took increasing control over the north. Similarly, Turkish Cypriots fled to the north as the intercommunal violence escalated in the south. People also left their homes after leaders signed the 1975 Vienna III agreement, which allowed for voluntary and assisted movements of Turkish Cypriots to the north and Greek Cypriots to the south, as well as assurances to Greek Cypriots that they would continue to have access to the services and facilities needed to lead a normal life in the north. In effect, a Turkish Cypriot zone was created in the north and a Greek Cypriot zone was created in the south, with only 130 Turkish Cypriots left in the south and 10,000 Greek Cypriots left in the north (PRIO, 7 March 2006; Hannay, 2005, p.6; Coufoudakis, 2006, p.9; ICG, 8 March 2006). However, the number of Greek Cypriots decreased to about 500 by 1981 as many were subjected to pressure from the Turkish Cypriot authorities (European Commission of Human Rights, 10 July 1976; PRIO, 7 March 2006). Another factor contributing to ethnic consolidation of the north is the arrival of immigrants from Turkey. Although there is no consensus on the exact figure, estimates range from 31,000 to 115,000 people, and 35,000 Turkish troops (ICG, 8 March 2006; Scott, 1998 p.148; CoE, 2 May 2003; PRIO, 12 August 2005).
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