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Postby saravakos » Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:39 am

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Postby garbitsch » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:23 pm

This article states the lack of coexistence between both communities. I expressed this before that this lack of coexistence is the biggest obstacle for a solution in Cyprus. We should all start creating programmes that will bring both communities together. Let's have a coexistence date, and celebrate it every year. Let's have bicommunal festivals. Let's have a coexistence courses in primary schools, teaching kids about "the other" and how "the other" is one of us. Let's have exchange of high school students. Let's have big advertisements in the cities depicting the peace between two communities. Let's join international sports contests with a group of althetes from both communities contesting under a coexistence flag. Let's put illegalities etc aside and do it. Let's call EU to help organisation of such events, may be create some non governmental organisations that will be in charge of these events. I would like to take part in such organisations, and I bet you guys will do the same too.
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Postby Main_Source » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:34 pm

Garbitsch is right.

but also...if the two communities have been apart for so long under these measures, its a bit too optimistic to say that they should both be pushed together and mingle and be friends in the space of a couple of years. Buliding a trust bewtween the two should be a natural thing and will take longer than a couple of years.

Things like coexistance events and media coverage will help but just to say "here you are, now go mingle and be friends right now"...it just doesnt work.

As long as there is a well structured police force and government to prevent any inter communal attacks, then I think a good coexistance will come round eventually. There has to be a common ground for both communities to want to be part of....where as before, each communitiy had a separate ground which drove them apart.
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Postby garbitsch » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:48 pm

but also...if the two communities have been apart for so long under these measures, its a bit too optimistic to say that they should both be pushed together and mingle and be friends in the space of a couple of years. Buliding a trust bewtween the two should be a natural thing and will take longer than a couple of years.


What you are saying is still not helping. We cannot wait and expect something happen. We should really do these things. Both sides do not know each other, we should make them know before a solution. We should try to initiate a coexistence between two communities before the unification. I am not saying this should be done in a couple of years. Please read it carefully. We should organise these events and we are not going to force people to join. Just whoever wants to join, then let them join. What I offered is better than teaching kids at school about how "the other" killed us etc.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:04 pm

Sorry to be a party pooper but in the current climate no one would attend, have you been to any arranged by the UN? no one takes part, people are just not interested. Since the referendum TCs have lost interest the excitment running up to the referendum was as good as it will ever get. Now people just get on with their lives and dont even need to go south this non interest will increase in time to when there will only be workers and trickle of TCs coming accross. People have come down to earth with a thump and know that any attempt to build bridges is a waste of time as GC want it all their own way and that we are just causing them problems in their national Goal which is being control of the whole island with TCs in their rightful place next to the Armenians, Latins and Maronites as just another minority. Aint gonna happen noway.
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Postby Kifeas » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:34 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Sorry to be a party pooper but in the current climate no one would attend, have you been to any arranged by the UN? no one takes part, people are just not interested. Since the referendum TCs have lost interest the excitment running up to the referendum was as good as it will ever get. Now people just get on with their lives and dont even need to go south this non interest will increase in time to when there will only be workers and trickle of TCs coming accross. People have come down to earth with a thump and know that any attempt to build bridges is a waste of time as GC want it all their own way and that we are just causing them problems in their national Goal which is being control of the whole island with TCs in their rightful place next to the Armenians, Latins and Maronites as just another minority. Aint gonna happen noway.

and then you.... woke up!
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Postby Main_Source » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:58 pm

no, such 'coexistance events' would help...but what im saying is dont judge the what has happened between the two communities since 2003, as an everlasting existance between the two. You cant just expect every single person to drop their ignorance / pain / anger etc in two years.

Building a good relationship between the communities can only really work naturally and things like 'coexistance events' (like the Famagusta Port idea), with positive media backing, would help.
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Postby Main_Source » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:00 pm

Sorry to be a party pooper but in the current climate no one would attend, have you been to any arranged by the UN? no one takes part, people are just not interested. Since the referendum TCs have lost interest the excitment running up to the referendum was as good as it will ever get. Now people just get on with their lives and dont even need to go south this non interest will increase in time to when there will only be workers and trickle of TCs coming accross. People have come down to earth with a thump and know that any attempt to build bridges is a waste of time as GC want it all their own way and that we are just causing them problems in their national Goal which is being control of the whole island with TCs in their rightful place next to the Armenians, Latins and Maronites as just another minority. Aint gonna happen noway


Now do you belive this person when he says he is for a unified Cyprus?
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Postby saravakos » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:44 pm

they should look at us in north london for a fine example of co-existence

its difficult though, because both sides still teach 'what they did to us...'
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:32 pm

saravakos wrote:they should look at us in north london for a fine example of co-existence

its difficult though, because both sides still teach 'what they did to us...'


You are miles away in a foreign land totally different situation you dont have to share power with anyone or feel threatened due to a chequered history.
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