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The Deep State in Turkey

Postby Jerry » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:15 pm

There are a couple of interesting pieces in Zaman about the “Deep State” in Turkey and that country’s future economic prospects. There’s a suggestion that a crisis in Turkey could rejuvenate the “Deep State”. How would the return of a military led government impact on the ROC?

“At the same time though, here is our current problem: This investigation is not going as deep as we would like see it go. In other words, the Ergenekon case did manage to stick a truncheon into the complicated deep state cogs, but it has not been enough to stop those cogs from going around.”

“I personally believe that since the structure we call the “deep state” has really only been pushed into the corner with a large stick (meaning the court trials), and since none of the very necessary deep-seated reforms to ensure their elimination have been accomplished, that they could return easily with their old strength to the forefront.”
http://www.todayszaman.com/columnistDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=287083

“But the Turkish economy, contending with a wobbly world economy -- which is confronting potential contagion from the continuing eurozone crisis -- is facing serious challenges in reaching a balanced and sustainable high-growth path to achieve steadily improving living standards in the years ahead.” http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-28 ... urkey.html
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Re: The Deep State in Turkey

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:57 pm

I hope they have another coup!

Then we can invade ...
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Re: The Deep State in Turkey

Postby Lordo » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:47 pm

Unfortunately Erdogan only scratched the surface I am afraid. Deep state is intact and always ready to make sure Erdogan does not stray too far from the American wishes. At the moment he is doing well for his masters and he will continue so long as he does not stray too far.

You can invade what,Athens?
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Re: The Deep State in Turkey

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:30 pm

Turkey holds the record on coups. Next time we, EU, can use Turkey's objectives in 'justifying' an invasion to make sure the Greek or Kurdish minorities aren't slaughtered ....
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Re: The Deep State in Turkey

Postby kimon07 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:15 pm

Lordo wrote:Unfortunately Erdogan only scratched the surface I am afraid.


Well, that is exactly why the Americans support him for. To offer a pretence picture of the moderate Muslim who is building a democratic secular muslim country, a model system to be imposed (as they believe) to other muslim countries in the region. Idiots!

Deep state is intact and always ready to make sure Erdogan does not stray too far from the American wishes.


Correct.

At the moment he is doing well for his masters and he will continue so long as he does not stray too far.


Yes. And they made sure to remind him of his limits with the F4 incident and the "Mavi Marmara" incident and his threats against Cyprus and Israel in respect to the drillings etc. Not to mention how they ridiculed the Turkish Army in Iraq when they caught the Turkish commandos who had infiltrated and hooded them.
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Re: The Deep State in Turkey

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:23 pm

Erdogan is the deep state, i'm afraid.
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Re: The Deep State in Turkey

Postby kimon07 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:34 am

repulsewarrior wrote:Erdogan is the deep state, i'm afraid.


Actually he has created (or is trying to create) one of his own. Lets see where the power straggle will lead.
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Re: The Deep State in Turkey

Postby wyoming cowboy » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:46 am

very ambitious characters these two characters Erdogan/Davotoglueey!!!
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Re: The Deep State in Turkey

Postby kimon07 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:19 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:very ambitious characters these two characters Erdogan/Davotoglueey!!!


Rather Erdogan/Gul. Davutoglu is just their theorist. The one who has set the goals of the long term neo Ottoman foreign policy of Turkey and the strategy to achieve them (The theory of the "Strategic Depth").
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Re: The Deep State in Turkey

Postby PC Bubble » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:36 am

GIG ( Oracle )

We can invade ?

What with ?

You have no army or air force. Maybe you could get all the hunters together!

On second thoughts not a grat idea as they tend to shoot each other !
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