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[Kikapu]

You wish, its the GCs who have now understood that they cannot force the TCs to do anything against their will. Now what you GCs have to come to terms with is the fact that we are partners and that you have to incorporate our demands concerns and fears into any solution which is totally against your mindset and narrow vision thats why talks and debates on this forum have fizzled out.

Where does it say in the UN resolution that BBF will be based on "partnership"???

If you are referring to the 1959 Zurich agreements, Denktash and Makarios by agreeing to chance from Unitary state to a BBF, by default, they did away with that 1959 Zurich agreements. From here on, a new agreement needs to be made and I don't see any "partnership" being accepted by the GCs, but only equal citizenship for all Cypriots, based on EU Principles!

Your demands are to give Cyprus to Turkey as the case was with the Annan plan, therefore, your demands it will not be accepted, specially from someone who is a "I'm a partitionist at heart", since you cannot be trusted by anyone. As for your fears and concerns, it will be accommodated if you really want them, but they will be in the form of special "Minority Rights". Do you really want to have special "Minority Rights" because that would make you officially a MINORITY group or do you want to be just be like any other Cypriot enjoying everything equally, just like ALL the Swiss do in Switzerland without any special minority rights to anyone, because no Swiss wants to be seen as a minority in their own country, even the 1% Romansh, the 10% Italian and the 20 % French speaking Swiss against the 69% German speaking Swiss. Learn something from the Swiss!

Be careful what you ask for, because you may not like it once you get it!

[Get Real!]

Now what you GCs have to come to terms with is the fact that we are partners and that you have to incorporate our demands concerns and fears into any solution which is totally against your mindset and narrow vision thats why talks and debates on this forum have fizzled out.

At least you finally realized that they're all playing for time so that your community may vanish!

[GreekIslandGirl]

Here's a new slant.

The TCs are the bone thrown to the dogs (Turkey). Soon they will be chewed to nothingness.

[Pyrpolizer]

We placed our bets in 1974.

I see.
Then why are you wasting your time in here?
Don't you have anything better to do?
Just make a nescafe,take a deep breath, jump in a swing bed,light a cigar, and wait for the time you will have your Karasakal "president". Something tells me all you rich Kibrisli remnants will be knocked off your swing beds by that Karasakali, but then again it will just be your bets delivering once again, won't they?

[Viewpoint]

You wish, its the GCs who have now understood that they cannot force the TCs to do anything against their will. Now what you GCs have to come to terms with is the fact that we are partners and that you have to incorporate our demands concerns and fears into any solution which is totally against your mindset and narrow vision thats why talks and debates on this forum have fizzled out.

Where does it say in the UN resolution that BBF will be based on "partnership"???

If you are referring to the 1959 Zurich agreements, Denktash and Makarios by agreeing to chance from Unitary state to a BBF, by default, they did away with that 1959 Zurich agreements. From here on, a new agreement needs to be made and I don't see any "partnership" being accepted by the GCs, but only equal citizenship for all Cypriots, based on EU Principles!

Your demands are to give Cyprus to Turkey as the case was with the Annan plan, therefore, your demands it will not be accepted, specially from someone who is a "I'm a partitionist at heart", since you cannot be trusted by anyone. As for your fears and concerns, it will be accommodated if you really want them, but they will be in the form of special "Minority Rights". Do you really want to have special "Minority Rights" because that would make you officially a MINORITY group or do you want to be just be like any other Cypriot enjoying everything equally, just like ALL the Swiss do in Switzerland without any special minority rights to anyone, because no Swiss wants to be seen as a minority in their own country, even the 1% Romansh, the 10% Italian and the 20 % French speaking Swiss against the 69% German speaking Swiss. Learn something from the Swiss!

Be careful what you ask for, because you may not like it once you get it!

Dont you think its more important as to what those rights exactly are and what they are good for, so that really blows your theory out of the water that becoming just some significant minority like the minorities in Switzerland is better than becoming a minority with special rights as this is what you propose for us not what we want, actually this is what we are 100% against and would rather unite with Turkey than accept what you and many other GCs have in mind for us, what we want is a BBF with political equality of the 2 states north and south as put forward and supported by the UN.

[Viewpoint]

Now what you GCs have to come to terms with is the fact that we are partners and that you have to incorporate our demands concerns and fears into any solution which is totally against your mindset and narrow vision thats why talks and debates on this forum have fizzled out.

At least you finally realized that they're all playing for time so that your community may vanish!

GR a TC marries a Turk they have children that grow up in North Cyprus, then their children marry a TC and a Turk repectively and they have children and those children grow up in North Cyprus, who will you get to leave and how will you achieve it? Really you people cannot be so dumb as to think that you will get TCs to dissapear if anything we will get stronger karasakal or not we to are Turkish in origin just as you are Greek, do you hate your roots or reject marriage between GCs and Greeks????

[Viewpoint]

We placed our bets in 1974.

I see.
Then why are you wasting your time in here?
Don't you have anything better to do?
Just make a nescafe,take a deep breath, jump in a swing bed,light a cigar, and wait for the time you will have your Karasakal "president". Something tells me all you rich Kibrisli remnants will be knocked off your swing beds by that Karasakali, but then again it will just be your bets delivering once again, won't they?

I test myself here to see if anyone can put forwards arguements that would make me say hey thats much better than partition and to date no has been able to do that, you have no answers just text book standard answers that do not resolve anything in fact it makes it worse and both side dig their heels in even further. Can you trace you bloodline back to Greece? are you proud of your Greek heritage? or are you disgusted by being associated with anything Greek?

[Pyrpolizer]

We placed our bets in 1974.

I see.
Then why are you wasting your time in here?
Don't you have anything better to do?
Just make a nescafe,take a deep breath, jump in a swing bed,light a cigar, and wait for the time you will have your Karasakal "president". Something tells me all you rich Kibrisli remnants will be knocked off your swing beds by that Karasakali, but then again it will just be your bets delivering once again, won't they?

I test myself here to see if anyone can put forwards arguements that would make me say hey thats much better than partition and to date no has been able to do that, you have no answers just text book standard answers that do not resolve anything in fact it makes it worse and both side dig their heels in even further. Can you trace you bloodline back to Greece? are you proud of your Greek heritage? or are you disgusted by being associated with anything Greek?

Testing, beep, testing beep, testing beep...
Is this what you mean VP? But by your own admission you always get "beeps", so your testing proved correct thousands of times.
So my initial questions still remains:

Why are you wasting your time in here?
Don't you have anything better to do?

Now don't get me wrong, I don't mean to say go away.
it's just that you get so easily caught when you lie my dear, and when you throw psychological little bombs like "we made our bets in 1974"!! No you don't beleive that you placed your bets in 1974, the REALITY IS that the vast MAJORITY of Kibrislis including YOURSELF are desperate living under Turkish occupation, you want someone to SAVE YOU and you know the only one who could possibly do that are the Kypreoi. Not that we the Kypreoi are anything special, in fact we are as miserably weak as you are, so only a miracle could possibly save you. The problem in all this procedure is that the Kibrislis will get extinct, whereas no such possibility exists for the Kypreoi.

What can we do dear Viewpoint "charesiz". The settlers have already made their first real impact by voting Eroglu for you, at a time that we gave you the best man for a deal -Christofias.In a few years they will make you a settler for President...

[Viewpoint]

Pyro your delusional.

[Pyrpolizer]

Pyro your delusional.

Thanks for the insult, I will not return it. Poor VP....cheers