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[Viewpoint]

Multiply....your statement reminds me of a pack of rats multiplying in an unsuspecting persons basement and then boom they're everywhere,(crawling on the walls,ceilings swinging off of trees) kind of like what you want Turks to be in Cyprus......

Basically correct. (The analogy is a bit unfortunate but the underlying principle is correct)

[Jerry]

Ha ha, very funny VP. If Turkey got free movement in the EU, Cyprus would be low down in preference. Germany and the UK however, will be swamped and we could see the Turkish population in Cyprus actually reduced.

They are on your doorstep man five them exactly 5 years and they will take over all the jobs and start working into the fabric of your already threatened society.

That doesn't matter just look at Polish immigration when they got free movement to the UK. Add to that the thriving Turkish communities in both the UK and Germany and like in the Polish example, coach companies that specialise in transporting Turks cheaply to these nations will ensure that your average Turk would be looking westwards for the opportunities.

Dont worry there is enough of them to go around, the problem you face more than other countries is that you belive Turkey ants to take over the south, if you are right then she will encourage Turks to go forth to the south and multiply.

You're an odd bugger aren't you VP,one minute you tell us that you don't want to live with the GCs because you don't trust them and now you tell us that Turks are going to move into and take over the south, which is it? Are these immigrants going to move in en masse and armed?Two things you need to take into consideration inorder to implement your "plan". First the ROC will have to agree to Turkey joining the EU and if it does it will almost certainly demand derogations that restrict movement of mainlanders to the ROC. Second, even if by some remote chance mainlanders do gain the right of free entry to the ROC they will not be made very welcome, the right wing nutters will see to that.

[humanist]

like the Cyro the racist TC ideology appears to put a stop to all.

The debate is for the Freedom of Cyprus and all its people. And if you can't see that the Turkish invasion is hurting everyone including the TC's then we can't have a a debate.

[Pyrpolizer]

You wish, its the GCs who have now understood that they cannot force the TCs to do anything against their will. Now what you GCs have to come to terms with is the fact that we are partners and that you have to incorporate our demands concerns and fears into any solution which is totally against your mindset and narrow vision thats why talks and debates on this forum have fizzled out.

The Kibrislis have not will left, imho. And it;s not they Kypreoi who removed it all from them, it is the Turks from Turkey. Soon enough they will be history

And then what will you have a population in the north so mixed with TCs but who share nothing in common so cannot understand your point of view, your job will be much harder to win them over, ignoring this is like committing suicide. Will you want to unite with this new generation TC population?

In your schools the ratio is 4:1 in favor of the settlers ALREADY!! Within one generation you will have a settler for "president" and settlers "parliament". When this time comes, the matter of uniting with them and the remnants of the real Kibrislis will be OVER. It may evolve as Kikapu said, it may evolve otherwise. Certainly the CP will be clearer by then, as a problem of illegal occupation and settlement.

Are you ready to place your bets now VP? Just imagine the remnants of you having a karasakal "president"

[Viewpoint]

We placed our bets in 1974.

[Viewpoint]

Ha ha, very funny VP. If Turkey got free movement in the EU, Cyprus would be low down in preference. Germany and the UK however, will be swamped and we could see the Turkish population in Cyprus actually reduced.

They are on your doorstep man five them exactly 5 years and they will take over all the jobs and start working into the fabric of your already threatened society.

That doesn't matter just look at Polish immigration when they got free movement to the UK. Add to that the thriving Turkish communities in both the UK and Germany and like in the Polish example, coach companies that specialise in transporting Turks cheaply to these nations will ensure that your average Turk would be looking westwards for the opportunities.

Dont worry there is enough of them to go around, the problem you face more than other countries is that you belive Turkey ants to take over the south, if you are right then she will encourage Turks to go forth to the south and multiply.

You're an odd bugger aren't you VP,one minute you tell us that you don't want to live with the GCs because you don't trust them and now you tell us that Turks are going to move into and take over the south, which is it? Are these immigrants going to move in en masse and armed?Two things you need to take into consideration inorder to implement your "plan". First the ROC will have to agree to Turkey joining the EU and if it does it will almost certainly demand derogations that restrict movement of mainlanders to the ROC. Second, even if by some remote chance mainlanders do gain the right of free entry to the ROC they will not be made very welcome, the right wing nutters will see to that.

You still dont get it, this is something you should fear not ignore or make excuses.

[Me Ed]

VP, you don't get it.

Ask any Turk looking to flee Turkey, given the chance to move anywhere in the EU, were would they go?

I guarantee that Cyprus will be low down in the list.

[kimon07]

Well, there is nothing to debaste about a problem already solved as we have all agreed.

Leg 1 (Turkish occupation): Enforcement of UN resolutions (Turkey out/settlers out etc).

Leg 2. (Internal family affair): New Constitution, i.e., United States of Cyprus, just like the Un. States of America.

Am I right Kikapu or am I right?

[Lordo]

Dream on my friend

when it comes to Turks taking over the south what the eu did to Greece will be like a picnic to what the Turks do to your economy

but lets face it you need them now more than the tcs

[kimon07]

Dream on my friend

when it comes to Turks taking over the south .......

And when will Erdogan become Chalif of the whole Mid. East and Asia?

If your leadership is motivated by the same fantacies, then things for us are far better than we could hope for.