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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:16 am

Viewpoint wrote:And this rally achieved what exactly???

Pretty fuck all like every other rally in the past 40 years because they are still using failed policies of confusion!

On the one hand they are claiming to come from a far away land thereby doing away with ancestral ownership of the island, and on the other they are demonstrating to attain full ownership of something they have already admitted to not own!

And of course under the circumstances the world powers react to all this in the most predictable of ways:

“Ok, if you were introduced to this island and the Turks were introduced to this island then you are BOTH foreigners and should therefore work out some sort of dual ownership! And btw, I guess we’ll never know what happened to those God forsaken Cypriots… it’s like the earth opened up and swallowed them!

Ah well, press on with the dissection of Cyprus!”


Under the circumstances, do you blame the world powers for allowing Turkey to remain on Cyprus 40 years on?

I don’t!
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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:21 am

Hermes wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:Thanks for posting that Bill I watched the whole clip. I find it difficult to understand why this injustice has been allowed to drag on for 38 years when I see how passionately these MEPs, MPs and former UK government ministers feel about the Cyprus tragedy.

It’s all thanks to the many fools on our side of the fence who have managed to demote a sovereign nation into a confused island of communities by denying their Cypriot ethnic origins and inventing fantasies from far away lands!

So under the circumstances what do you expect other countries like Britain to do when many Cypriots themselves can’t figure out where they come from by denying ancestral ownership of this country?

They’re still too stupid to understand that ancestral ownership is everything in the fight for justice but all they are ever good at is shooting themselves in the foot!

My dear, GR, you do know that the "eteo-Cypriots" thesis was vigorously advocated by the British colonial authorities in Cyprus to discredit rising Greek nationalism in Cyprus? The only possible way that this could be achieved was through the identification of an ancient 'autochthonous' population that had remained largely unaffected by more recent colonization and immigration and would thus make ancient Cyprus look less Hellenic.

So please clear your head of all the dodgy British propaganda you seem to have inherited. It's bad enough that we have to take lessons in our identity from foreigners without having you perpetuate their misinformation...

By constantly forfeiting your ancestral rights to Cyprus can only result in you LOSING Cyprus! So if that’s what you want keep going with your Spartan fantasies!
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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby Hermes » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:55 am

bill cobbett wrote:Veteran Labour politician and former Secretary of State for Health, Frank Dobson MP said - " "Every single government in the EU should be ashamed that it has not made clear to Turkey that if it wants to be a member of the EU, it has to play by the rules. We cannot have a situation whereby the presidency country of the EU is occupied by an alien force."

Well said, Dobbo. Good man!
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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby Piratis » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:38 am

Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:Thanks for posting that Bill I watched the whole clip. I find it difficult to understand why this injustice has been allowed to drag on for 38 years when I see how passionately these MEPs, MPs and former UK government ministers feel about the Cyprus tragedy.

It’s all thanks to the many fools on our side of the fence who have managed to demote a sovereign nation into a confused island of communities by denying their Cypriot ethnic origins and inventing fantasies from far away lands!

So under the circumstances what do you expect other countries like Britain to do when many Cypriots themselves can’t figure out where they come from by denying ancestral ownership of this country?

They’re still too stupid to understand that ancestral ownership is everything in the fight for justice but all they are ever good at is shooting themselves in the foot!


There was no confusion among the Cypriot people. The Cypriot people knew that they are Greek, like the Greek people living on most islands in the Mediterranean, and that therefore Cyprus should be part of a free united Greek state.

Everything apart from that, including the pseudo-independence, was imposed on us by foreign imperialists who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated from the rest of Hellenism so it would be easier for them to continue to exploit our island.

The Greeks are among the most ancient ethnic groups still in existence today (even the word "ethnos" is Greek). It is ridiculous to say that in order to have "ancestral ownership" of Cyprus we need to claim that our ancestors grew out of the land of Cyprus. The fact is that all our ancestors came from somewhere else and that for 3000+ years Cyprus is a Hellenic island. That is two times more than any part of Britain has been English, and four times more than any part of Anatolia has been Turkish.
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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:09 am

Piratis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:Thanks for posting that Bill I watched the whole clip. I find it difficult to understand why this injustice has been allowed to drag on for 38 years when I see how passionately these MEPs, MPs and former UK government ministers feel about the Cyprus tragedy.

It’s all thanks to the many fools on our side of the fence who have managed to demote a sovereign nation into a confused island of communities by denying their Cypriot ethnic origins and inventing fantasies from far away lands!

So under the circumstances what do you expect other countries like Britain to do when many Cypriots themselves can’t figure out where they come from by denying ancestral ownership of this country?

They’re still too stupid to understand that ancestral ownership is everything in the fight for justice but all they are ever good at is shooting themselves in the foot!


There was no confusion among the Cypriot people. The Cypriot people knew that they are Greek, like the Greek people living on most islands in the Mediterranean, and that therefore Cyprus should be part of a free united Greek state.

Everything apart from that, including the pseudo-independence, was imposed on us by foreign imperialists who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated from the rest of Hellenism so it would be easier for them to continue to exploit our island.

The Greeks are among the most ancient ethnic groups still in existence today (even the word "ethnos" is Greek). It is ridiculous to say that in order to have "ancestral ownership" of Cyprus we need to claim that our ancestors grew out of the land of Cyprus. The fact is that all our ancestors came from somewhere else and that for 3000+ years Cyprus is a Hellenic island. That is two times more than any part of Britain has been English, and four times more than any part of Anatolia has been Turkish.


...well said Piratis, but i still prefer a Free Cyprus, rather than a Greek Cyprus. I prefer Constituencies where Greeks have the Right to represent themselves, just like the other Constituencies, especially if the Federal Government defends the State and its Citizens without any distinction or discrimination, as Individuals, in the best manner possible.
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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:26 am

Piratis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:Thanks for posting that Bill I watched the whole clip. I find it difficult to understand why this injustice has been allowed to drag on for 38 years when I see how passionately these MEPs, MPs and former UK government ministers feel about the Cyprus tragedy.

It’s all thanks to the many fools on our side of the fence who have managed to demote a sovereign nation into a confused island of communities by denying their Cypriot ethnic origins and inventing fantasies from far away lands!

So under the circumstances what do you expect other countries like Britain to do when many Cypriots themselves can’t figure out where they come from by denying ancestral ownership of this country?

They’re still too stupid to understand that ancestral ownership is everything in the fight for justice but all they are ever good at is shooting themselves in the foot!


There was no confusion among the Cypriot people. The Cypriot people knew that they are Greek, like the Greek people living on most islands in the Mediterranean, and that therefore Cyprus should be part of a free united Greek state.

Everything apart from that, including the pseudo-independence, was imposed on us by foreign imperialists who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated from the rest of Hellenism so it would be easier for them to continue to exploit our island.

The Greeks are among the most ancient ethnic groups still in existence today (even the word "ethnos" is Greek). It is ridiculous to say that in order to have "ancestral ownership" of Cyprus we need to claim that our ancestors grew out of the land of Cyprus. The fact is that all our ancestors came from somewhere else and that for 3000+ years Cyprus is a Hellenic island. That is two times more than any part of Britain has been English, and four times more than any part of Anatolia has been Turkish.

Piratis, Cyprus is far older than anything Greek so quit posting nonsense please, but more importantly QUIT insulting my Cypriot inheritance with your Balkan gypsy fabrications because I don’t appreciate it!
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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:11 pm

Well said GR.
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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby Maximus » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:17 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Well said GR.


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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby Hermes » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:Cyprus is far older than anything Greek

Dear Lord. Still perpetuating that British colonial clap-trap, GR?

Even VP agrees with you. Doesn't that tell you something?
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Re: London Rally... Turkey Out of Cyprus

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:27 pm

Piratis wrote:There was no confusion among the Cypriot people. The Cypriot people knew that they are Greek, like the Greek people living on most islands in the Mediterranean, and that therefore Cyprus should be part of a free united Greek state.

Everything apart from that, including the pseudo-independence, was imposed on us by foreign imperialists who wanted to keep Cyprus isolated from the rest of Hellenism so it would be easier for them to continue to exploit our island.

The Greeks are among the most ancient ethnic groups still in existence today (even the word "ethnos" is Greek). It is ridiculous to say that in order to have "ancestral ownership" of Cyprus we need to claim that our ancestors grew out of the land of Cyprus. The fact is that all our ancestors came from somewhere else and that for 3000+ years Cyprus is a Hellenic island. That is two times more than any part of Britain has been English, and four times more than any part of Anatolia has been Turkish.


Why are you wasting your breath? It would be easier to persuade VP and Halil that TCs are a minority than teach history to any neo Cypriot promoter of British colonial propaganda. Ignore them. History can not change. So what they support is irrelevant. No need to help them spread and repeat over and over again their propaganda by contradicting their stupidities. Let them ridicule themselves.
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