MrH wrote:Firstly, Thanks ViewPoint for your Addition as always!
Kikapu Wrote:
So in a nutshell, why should the RoC allow recognition to the north if the game is already up and Turkey has gotten what it wants.??
Where is the win-win when the RoC already has the recognition and the title to the whole of the island and in the EU, and the "trnc" has no recognition and the territory it occupies belongs to the RoC and the EU?
Now almost all of the Turks in the north are Illegal Aliens. How would it help the RoC if they all became Legal Aliens and still remained on the island?
Can you please explain, since you know more about politics than me, according to you of course!
Hi Kikapu, Let me clarify by answering your questions as simple as possible:
1) The ROC doesn't need to ALLOW the Recognition of the TRNC as it is only one country of many, one which is not recognised by Turkey mind you, and one "Half" Country which has NO EFFECTIVE Control over the Northern Part known as the "TRNC" regardless of it being recognised or not. Kosovo is not Recognised by many countries, and nor is Taiwan or even Tibet but it doesn't mean that they are not an actual functioning state!
2) Cyprus, the Entire island that is, is STILL BOUND BY the "CEASE FIRE LINE REGULATION", which effectively, again, means that it is LOCKED in UN Talks if it wants to find a "COMPREHENSIVE RESOLUTION" to the Cyprus "Problem".
3) The original 1960 Constitution and its accompanying Zurich agreements are a "Partnership" of Two Founding peoples - The "Turks" and "Greeks" of Cyprus which is why THEY are still talking! and which is why Turkey, Greece and the UK Guarantors of the Entire island.
4) Whether the Turks of Cyprus are known as "Turkish Cypriots or Turks, or now consist of a combination of mixed Turks since 1974 due to the inability to compromise on a Comprehensive Solution" (as said by Eroglu's latest comments), NOTHING is resolved until a Comprehensive solution is AGREED upon. However, it the long term Natural consequences of NOT agreeing to a Solution which now appears to be benefiting Turkey - and you know this very well!
5) The "Turkish Cypriots", due to the non-movement of Greek Cypriot policy and isolation have resigned to their fate of mixing completely with hundreds of thousands of so called "Turkish Settlers" since 1974 to the extent that it is now irreversible, unless of course the Greek Cypriots were to immediately recognise a Turkish Cypriot State - but I'm now certain that this would now even be rejected by the EU and UN due to the intervention of Russian and other money laundering vultures.
6) Finally, if, and if, the Greek Cypriot had an inch of brains and decided to Recognise A Turkish Cypriot State in the North and it went through smoothly, that part would immediately be a part of the EU, Turkey would have to leave the island ASAP and a new state of politics and agreement would bestow on the Greek and Turkish Cypriots, but, we know that will never happen now as the Greek Cypriots are now too embedded in their corrupt, Russian paid, GAS filled, false hopes of prosperity which denying the fact they could stop this in one swift move.
As the above last point will never materialise, The Turkish population in the north will continue to grow very quick indeed, the Turkish Cypriots will soon be out-numbered 50-1, the UN talks will fail, the Gas exploration and its money will not be seen by the Greek Cypriot people but will probably be used to pay off Greece's debts and the corrupt rich, the TRNC will become an official province of Turkey with no isolation due to that reason, and Turkey's economic influence and geopolitical stand in the future will make it a very independent power and important country for both the EU, middle east and new Turkic states. Meanwhile, Cyprus will be like "Ireland", a land where the Northern part will be part of Turkey, like northern Ireland is part of the UK, and the south will remain like the Republic of Ireland - Republic of Cyprus, poor, corrupt and a tiny non-important mini state of the EU with 60% of its future population consisting of EU migrants!
Please Do not forget the interests of the British Government and security of their bases as a Divide and Rule suits their policy and unification obviously does Not! It's the lack of Greek Cypriot vision and their greed that keeps Turkish and British policy alive, think about it - Speak to some of the Opinion writers in the Cyprus Mail!
Good luck!
