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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:16 pm

Theodosia, you look radiant and beautiful. I'm sorry you went on to have such shocking news. But, hey, you are still around and perhaps your life is even richer now. Are you doing things you otherwise wouldn't have done? Was this the spur to find your dad? For that too, I wish you all the best, I really do.
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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby theodosia » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:51 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Theodosia, you look radiant and beautiful. I'm sorry you went on to have such shocking news. But, hey, you are still around and perhaps your life is even richer now. Are you doing things you otherwise wouldn't have done? Was this the spur to find your dad? For that too, I wish you all the best, I really do.

thank you :oops: yes im still here! yes i have gone to see my lovely friend maggie who lives in ireland, im scared of flying but i went on my own on that plane. Then a year later i went to croatia to see my friend natasha. As my friend said(maggie) what do you have to be scared of now after what happened you can do anything! :D
we did look for him a few years ago but with very little information we didn't find him.then one night i was talking to my aunt (not my mums sisters) and i asked her about him and she told me things i didnt know, with that infor we could try again. but after cancer i found myself thinking about him a lot and thought how sad it would be if i never got to see him, or the very least find out what happened to him, he would be in his 70s or 80s so he may not be alive. now with the internet you can find stuff that can point you in the right direction, thats how i found this site, and now i get to meet lovely people like you :D I also found greek papers and radio and such like.
have a fab day 8)
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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby B25 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:04 pm

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GreekIslandGirl wrote:I knew a few people that have died from cancer but more that have had cancer, been treated, and are still around. One dear friend had bowel cancer about 30 years ago and he is doing great.

Diet, drinking or smoking do affect the likelihood of not only getting cancer but also affect your survival chances. The biggest factor is of course genetics as far as most cancers are concerned. Some forms of breast cancer for example are linked to certain mutations which are inherited.

Normally each time your cells multiply, a few cancer cells are produced. So at any one time, we all have cancer cells swimming around our body. What stops them turning into tumours is our immune system which if healthy (good diet or good genetics) will gobble them up as they look "foreign".

It's mostly down to your immune system - which we know is affected by stress (the reason why you are most likely to catch a cold when you are overworked).

As mentioned in the above post, the ends of your chromosomes play a big part in ageing. Some people have long end-caps (telomeres) and stay younger/healthier for longer.

hello my sweetie, like the post above i find it very interesting how a lot of people die of cacner even when caught at an early stage, and others who live long after, i guess after 15 people i know all getting cancer very close togetter is making me feel very scared about it all. After going through breast cancer myself in 2006 and most of the woman in the clinic having a recurrance and dying keeps the fear burning, there is always fuel to throw on the fire when u go through it. The good news is when people tell you they know someone who is still alive 20/30 years later, its just that i have only met 1...have a lovely eve

If it's any consolation I know one person very close who had breast cancer and had a mastectomy in 1983. Still going strong thank good. She is now in her 70's.
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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
theodosia wrote:How many people do you know who has had cancer and live a normal life span?

None. They're all dead! :?


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Only added the fags and alcohol bit to keep on topic. All the best. :D
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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:13 pm

Must look up Telomeres see if there is any chance of me improving my life expectancy. :D
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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby theodosia » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:42 pm

B25 wrote:
theodosia wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I knew a few people that have died from cancer but more that have had cancer, been treated, and are still around. One dear friend had bowel cancer about 30 years ago and he is doing great.

Diet, drinking or smoking do affect the likelihood of not only getting cancer but also affect your survival chances. The biggest factor is of course genetics as far as most cancers are concerned. Some forms of breast cancer for example are linked to certain mutations which are inherited.

Normally each time your cells multiply, a few cancer cells are produced. So at any one time, we all have cancer cells swimming around our body. What stops them turning into tumours is our immune system which if healthy (good diet or good genetics) will gobble them up as they look "foreign".

It's mostly down to your immune system - which we know is affected by stress (the reason why you are most likely to catch a cold when you are overworked).

As mentioned in the above post, the ends of your chromosomes play a big part in ageing. Some people have long end-caps (telomeres) and stay younger/healthier for longer.

hello my sweetie, like the post above i find it very interesting how a lot of people die of cacner even when caught at an early stage, and others who live long after, i guess after 15 people i know all getting cancer very close togetter is making me feel very scared about it all. After going through breast cancer myself in 2006 and most of the woman in the clinic having a recurrance and dying keeps the fear burning, there is always fuel to throw on the fire when u go through it. The good news is when people tell you they know someone who is still alive 20/30 years later, its just that i have only met 1...have a lovely eve

If it's any consolation I know one person very close who had breast cancer and had a mastectomy in 1983. Still going strong thank good. She is now in her 70's.

thank you it is...to hear somone is alive many years later. Thankfully she will go on to live to a fine old age! :D
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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:43 pm

theodosia wrote:How many people do you know who has had cancer and live a normal life span? I know so many people who has had cancer/ or dying of cancer.
did you know that 1 in 3 people will now get it? what makes me mad is how the media talks about cancer for example the 5 year all clear...this is nonsence, it can't be cured it can be treated and you may have what is called remission. (very few cancers can be cured)
cancer can come back anytime in the 5 years and after the 5 years.
the word 'cure' is not what people think it means..you would think cure means it never comes back again, but what they the doctors call cure is they can't see it/feel now it does not mean you don't have cancer cells swimming round in your body these cells can't be seen and sometimes a blood test can't pick them up.
liveing with the thought of a recurrance is very scary and you can only hope you never get it.
As for the so called reasons as to why people get cancer is rubbish, like diet, drinking and smoking. All the people i know have healthy diets, don't smoke and drink very little.
maybe the gov is getting rid of as many people as it can after all we have not a world war in a while, and we are over populated so who knows?


Cancer is a money making racket!

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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby theodosia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:06 pm

It is true that the big drug companies make a lot of money , having cancer treament is a big profit for them so why why would they want a cure?
I don't see the point in "the race for life" running,jumping and skiping. In the mean while people donate millons of pounds for the so called cure that will never be found, or at least not to the public.
Also 1 in 3 now get cancer when it used to be 1 in 700, in 2030 aprox it will be 1 in 1.
More young people get cancer now then ever before, which makes me question "why?"
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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:15 pm

Chemotherapy can backfire and boost cancer growth: study

Cancer-busting chemotherapy can cause damage to healthy cells which triggers them to secrete a protein that sustains tumour growth and resistance to further treatment, a study said Sunday.

Researchers in the United States made the "completely unexpected" finding while seeking to explain why cancer cells are so resilient inside the human body when they are easy to kill in the lab.

They tested the effects of a type of chemotherapy on tissue collected from men with prostate cancer, and found "evidence of DNA damage" in healthy cells after treatment, the scientists wrote in Nature Medicine.

Chemotherapy works by inhibiting reproduction of fast-dividing cells such as those found in tumours.

The scientists found that healthy cells damaged by chemotherapy secreted more of a protein called WNT16B which boosts cancer cell survival.

"The increase in WNT16B was completely unexpected," study co-author Peter Nelson of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle told AFP.

The protein was taken up by tumour cells neighbouring the damaged cells.

"WNT16B, when secreted, would interact with nearby tumour cells and cause them to grow, invade, and importantly, resist subsequent therapy," said Nelson.

In cancer treatment, tumours often respond well initially, followed by rapid regrowth and then resistance to further chemotherapy.

Rates of tumour cell reproduction have been shown to accelerate between treatments.

"Our results indicate that damage responses in benign cells... may directly contribute to enhanced tumour growth kinetics," wrote the team.

The researchers said they confirmed their findings with breast and ovarian cancer tumours.

The result paves the way for research into new, improved treatment, said Nelson.

"For example, an antibody to WNT16B, given with chemotherapy, may improve responses (kill more tumour cells)," he said in an email exchange.

"Alternatively, it may be possible to use smaller, less toxic doses of therapy

http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/chemother ... 16398.html
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Re: to die or not to die, that is the question

Postby theodosia » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:18 pm

Yes i saw this on the news today, very scary as i had chemo.
I do a lot of research and reading on cancer, and there is always storeys like this that come up. But it makes sense about the chemo, because when someone has a recurrence of cancer and has more treatment the tumour does respond for a bit. Then suddenly the tumours grow rapidly and also appear in other places in the body.
As i said before chemo makes a lot of money for the drug companies.
Not sure how they are going to find some other treatment because not all will, or can have the hormone for drugs like tamoxifen so where does that leave the rest of us?
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