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Do Turkish Cypriots want a United Cyprus?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Alexios » Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:24 am

Alexios,
Everything comes down to cost finally,I suppose.A true bicommunal daily...now that's a great idea.It will have to be in English,for practical reasons,which will make its appeal limited.Unless,it is a weekly and only appears online.Food for thought,Alexios.[/quote]

Can you raise the funds??:)
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Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:56 am

Alexios wrote:I agree.But your disgust,as mine should be towards the poster and not Politis.Rafaella,propably a young lady, knows nothing about, or chooses to ignore the period 1963-1974.If she is ignorant,then she is not to blame but our educational system.If she knows and pretends not to then she is not worth bothering with..

Thanks for the complement Alexios but I'm not as young as you think.
I found some thruths coming out of that article and if anyone fails to see those truths then I am not responsible for that.
I don't need any guidance or indications to form my personal views and beliefs.
Anyhow, no need to give excuses to anyone for my beliefs or my views.

garbitsch wrote:But still this post was just written to insult Turkish Cypriots imo.

As I mentioned above some truths are coming out of that article. It cannot be seen as an insult to Tcs, no.

garbitsch wrote:Rafaella does not bother with Turkish Cypriots' pain. What only matters for her is the lands and properties G.Cs left in the North, which is just one part of the overall problem she keeps ignoring.

If this is the only thing you realized all this time in this forum, that my only concern is my property at the occupied area, then no need for a further discussion. Allow me though to use your own words, you do not bother for Gcs' pain.
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Postby Alexios » Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:47 am

Thanks for the complement Alexios but I'm not as young as you think.
I found some thruths coming out of that article and if anyone fails to see those truths then I am not responsible for that.
I don't need any guidance or indications to form my personal views and beliefs.
Anyhow, no need to give excuses to anyone for my beliefs or my views.

Dear Rafaella.
First of all I apologise if i sounded patronizing.
Of course there are truths in the article!! There are truths in almost anything we say in such circumstances.Sweeping blanket statements as pointed out in the article however, are just that.Sweeping and misleading.They are insulting to the T/C community as a whole because that type of logic (or stupidity) which i agree, maybe be adopted by some T/Cs, does not necessarily represent the whole community.
However there is another aspect hiding in the article which should be pointed out.The type of situation we are in now,promoting that type of logic by T/Cs, is the result of the realities that occured following the rejection of the Annan Plan.We cannot have the pie and eat it...
As i see it, the article simply points out the dangers of non solution which evidently grow bigger and more serious as time passes by,justifying what many people say that time works against G/Cs. Unless we prefer partition,official or de facto..
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Postby Nicko » Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:49 am

I think Rafaella is being a bit sensitive, but i know why....she's a girl, and what do girls know...Rafaella mou, go to the kitchen and make me a coffee!!
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Postby garbitsch » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:26 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:
Alexios wrote:I agree.But your disgust,as mine should be towards the poster and not Politis.Rafaella,propably a young lady, knows nothing about, or chooses to ignore the period 1963-1974.If she is ignorant,then she is not to blame but our educational system.If she knows and pretends not to then she is not worth bothering with..

Thanks for the complement Alexios but I'm not as young as you think.
I found some thruths coming out of that article and if anyone fails to see those truths then I am not responsible for that.
I don't need any guidance or indications to form my personal views and beliefs.
Anyhow, no need to give excuses to anyone for my beliefs or my views.

garbitsch wrote:But still this post was just written to insult Turkish Cypriots imo.

As I mentioned above some truths are coming out of that article. It cannot be seen as an insult to Tcs, no.

garbitsch wrote:Rafaella does not bother with Turkish Cypriots' pain. What only matters for her is the lands and properties G.Cs left in the North, which is just one part of the overall problem she keeps ignoring.

If this is the only thing you realized all this time in this forum, that my only concern is my property at the occupied area, then no need for a further discussion. Allow me though to use your own words, you do not bother for Gcs' pain.


That post shows Turkish Cypriots as some kind of greedy creatures who have nothing but to get benefit from every situation? That they do not care about solution? Is this what you claim to be true for god's sake? Don't make me crazy!
You do not and you have never cared about Turkish Cypriot pain. I know your posts. The only thing you care is to get back your properties and rule the rest of Cyprus. Don't read me stories.
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:22 pm

Piratis knows for sure that "Politis" is funded by the Americans. I have learned to stay well away from people who are very sure of their beliefs. One thing I know for sure is that the RoC is funded every year by the Americans with a sum total of 15 million bucks. Also the dirty Americans funded the building of refugee homes after 1974 giving shelter and safety to thousands of people. Piratis is a good pupil of his master. I can excuse him for such absurdities because when they come from the mouth of Papadopoulos, our ethnarch, what can one expect from the obedient servants?

Going back to the article I could say that I fully understand the despair of our TC friends but as I said before, I believe the author merely wanted to stress that the GC's stand to lose a great deal for voting against the solution.

Lastly, to claim that "Phileleftheros" is the only truly independed newspaper is to say that this person who claims so, lives on a different planet, in another solar system. This spineless paper has always been the government's mouthpiece and it has shown an amazing capacity to adapt itself according to who governs this plantation.
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Postby Alexios » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:36 pm

My late father used to call them(fileleftheros) Chameleons...
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:47 pm

Your late father was a wise man.
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Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:43 pm

Alexios wrote:As i see it, the article simply points out the dangers of non solution which evidently grow bigger and more serious as time passes by,justifying what many people say that time works against G/Cs. Unless we prefer partition,official or de facto..

That's how I see it.
The time works against not only the Gcs but against Tcs as well.

Nicko-mou wrote: I think Rafaella is being a bit sensitive, but i know why....she's a girl, and what do girls know...Rafaella mou, go to the kitchen and make me a coffee!!

Another male with the macho-pasha syndrom... :lol:

Nicko-mou wrote:Rafaella mou, go to the kitchen and make me a coffee!!

Nicko-mou, why do you talk to me like that? I'm not your mother, your sister, girlfriend, wife...

garbitsch wrote:That post shows Turkish Cypriots as some kind of greedy creatures who have nothing but to get benefit from every situation? That they do not care about solution? Is this what you claim to be true for god's sake? Don't make me crazy!
You do not and you have never cared about Turkish Cypriot pain. I know your posts.
The only thing you care is to get back your properties and rule the rest of Cyprus. Don't read me stories.

If this is what you understood so far, then there are many more things for you to learn.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:14 pm

Piratis knows for sure that "Politis" is funded by the Americans. I have learned to stay well away from people who are very sure of their beliefs.

In that case you must stay well away from yourself. I guess that explains why you are out of your mind.

One thing I know for sure is that the RoC is funded every year by the Americans with a sum total of 15 million bucks. Also the dirty Americans funded the building of refugee homes after 1974 giving shelter and safety to thousands of people.

So maybe we should say thanks to them instead of accusing them, ah? Maybe the Iraqis and the whole world should say thanks to them for the money they spend in their countries.
Once you said that you would prefer if Cyprus was still a British colony, how nice is the UK etc.
Form what I see who you support are: US/UK/Turkey. Beyond that everybody can understand why you do that. We don't need to say anything.

I can excuse him for such absurdities because when they come from the mouth of Papadopoulos, our ethnarch, what can one expect from the obedient servants?

Who are servants are people like you. We are free people that accept no compromise on our human and democratic rights.

Lastly, to claim that "Phileleftheros" is the only truly independed newspaper is to say that this person who claims so, lives on a different planet, in another solar system. This spineless paper has always been the government's mouthpiece and it has shown an amazing capacity to adapt itself according to who governs this plantation.

While Politis remains stable at the USA directives.
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