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[Hermes]

What possible legal or moral justification can there be for any of this?

Allow me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_541

[Jerry]

Ignorant tossers are also those who forget the destruction heaped on Turkish Cypriots in 1963 when one third of the population were driven from their homes.

It seems no amount of education in any country can remove the ignorance born in a person.

Same old bollocks crap from CF's number one tosspot. The intercommunal strife did not start in 1963. With partition as its objective it was instigated by the Cypriot minority in 1958 whilst under the protection of the colonial power.

[Me Ed]

Halil,

as someone who presents himself as a respectable peacemaker with cosy coffee mornings in the occupied areas, I am stunned that you would post blatant lies.

Deception 1

The TC FA, the RoC and EUFA in a meeting chaired by none other Michel Platini brokered a deal where teams in the occupied area could play international football. This was blocked by Turkey.

Deception 2

TCs are a minority in the occupied areas, so to present the yes vote of the Annan plan as an exclusive TC yes vote is another deception. It can be statistically shown that ethnic TCs probably voted NO in the Annan plan and the bulk of the yes vote was from Turkish settlers.

The RoC is not blackmailing anyone. You obviously have issue with the fact that the minority TC veto can no longer be used to blackmail the majority of RoC citizens.

Ed you have no understanding of Turkish Cypriot politics.
Incredible that you are saying that the settlers will vote for the Annan plan and not the Turkish Cypriots. Care to give any evidence even if it is circumstantial one.

I have heard it all before and according to you the sun goes around the earth too. Back to church my friend.

I believe the reasoning was first put forward by Kimon, so the circumstantial evidence is as follows:

1) The TC leadership was opposed to the Annan plan, including Denktash.

2) Here's the math breakdown of the 65% yes vote of the occupied territory.

Assume a very conservative TC/settler ethnic split is 50%-50% although we know the TC % is much lower than this.

Assume Turkey was pro-Annan and all settlers voted YES so that accounts for 50% out of the 65% YES vote.

Assume TCs followed their leadership and this means the TCs vote accounts for 15% YES (65%-50% settler vote) and 35% NO.

So, taking together the fact that the TC leadership were against and Turkey pro-Annan, excluding the settler vote 30% of ethnic TCs voted yes and 70% voted NO.

The TC NO vote would be even higher if there was more honesty about how many TCs there actually are in the occupied territory as they are less than 50% of those that voted on the Annan plan.

What's rich is that the TCs are now using the yes vote in a lame attempt score political point, when it can be demonstrated that they probably voted a big fat NO.

[supporttheunderdog]

Halil, ... I am stunned that you would post blatant lies.

That's all they have.

(BTW - has he produced a link, because I can't find this letter in the Telegraph at all!)

It is buried here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/9365924/The-banking-scandal-is-no-failure-of-moral-rules-but-a-set-of-criminal-acts.html aboit 6 letters in aafter the *anking scandal in the UK and one about sh*t laden articulated lorries.
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[Me Ed]

Interesting how former Eastenders actor Michael Cashman MEP, a pro-gay rights campaigner, would put his name along side Maginnis, a well known homophobe, that equates homosexuality with beastiality.

I wonder if he knows this and on top of that his name being used to spread lies.

[Viewpoint]

Interesting how former Eastenders actor Michael Cashman MEP, a pro-gay rights campaigner, would put his name along side Maginnis, a well known homophobe, that equates homosexuality with beastiality.

I wonder if he knows this and on top of that his name being used to spread lies.

What has that got to do with anything the facts speak for themselves you GCs have stolen our rights and are milking them for what they are worth.

[bill cobbett]

Interesting how former Eastenders actor Michael Cashman MEP, a pro-gay rights campaigner, would put his name along side Maginnis, a well known homophobe, that equates homosexuality with beastiality.

I wonder if he knows this and on top of that his name being used to spread lies.

What has that got to do with anything the facts speak for themselves you GCs have stolen our rights and are milking them for what they are worth.

Look out your front door VP and you' might just see a Turkish Army Camp... one of dozens and dozens all over the Occupied Areas, one in or near every village and town... Go and ask them what they've done with your rights.

[Lordo]

Ignorant tossers are also those who forget the destruction heaped on Turkish Cypriots in 1963 when one third of the population were driven from their homes.

It seems no amount of education in any country can remove the ignorance born in a person.

Same old bollocks crap from CF's number one tosspot. The intercommunal strife did not start in 1963. With partition as its objective it was instigated by the Cypriot minority in 1958 whilst under the protection of the colonial power.

Intercommunal strife my arse my friend. You were hell bent on kicking the shit out the Turkish Cypriots to kingdom come. Thank God Turkey was there to protect the Turkish Cypriots.
Get your history right, it was started by EOKA in 55. But I was under the impression that Greek Cypriots were highly educated and honourable to honour the agreements they would sign. How ever it seems that when Greek Cypriots sign a agreement they have no intention of sticking to it.

Which is why the game is up.

Never mind federation I fear not even confederation will be acceptable now.

It seems only two states is possible now.

[Lordo]

Halil,

as someone who presents himself as a respectable peacemaker with cosy coffee mornings in the occupied areas, I am stunned that you would post blatant lies.

Deception 1

The TC FA, the RoC and EUFA in a meeting chaired by none other Michel Platini brokered a deal where teams in the occupied area could play international football. This was blocked by Turkey.

Deception 2

TCs are a minority in the occupied areas, so to present the yes vote of the Annan plan as an exclusive TC yes vote is another deception. It can be statistically shown that ethnic TCs probably voted NO in the Annan plan and the bulk of the yes vote was from Turkish settlers.

The RoC is not blackmailing anyone. You obviously have issue with the fact that the minority TC veto can no longer be used to blackmail the majority of RoC citizens.

Ed you have no understanding of Turkish Cypriot politics.
Incredible that you are saying that the settlers will vote for the Annan plan and not the Turkish Cypriots. Care to give any evidence even if it is circumstantial one.

I have heard it all before and according to you the sun goes around the earth too. Back to church my friend.

I believe the reasoning was first put forward by Kimon, so the circumstantial evidence is as follows:

1) The TC leadership was opposed to the Annan plan, including Denktash.

2) Here's the math breakdown of the 65% yes vote of the occupied territory.

Assume a very conservative TC/settler ethnic split is 50%-50% although we know the TC % is much lower than this.

Assume Turkey was pro-Annan and all settlers voted YES so that accounts for 50% out of the 65% YES vote.

Assume TCs followed their leadership and this means the TCs vote accounts for 15% YES (65%-50% settler vote) and 35% NO.

So, taking together the fact that the TC leadership were against and Turkey pro-Annan, excluding the settler vote 30% of ethnic TCs voted yes and 70% voted NO.

The TC NO vote would be even higher if there was more honesty about how many TCs there actually are in the occupied territory as they are less than 50% of those that voted on the Annan plan.

What's rich is that the TCs are now using the yes vote in a lame attempt score political point, when it can be demonstrated that they probably voted a big fat NO.

You are out of your depth my friend.

The reason why the Turkish Cypriots voted yes was because since the 80s Ozker Ozgur and then Talat went around the country talking about Peace. Stop looking for Gosts. If the gacos could vote they would vote to join Turkey. Thank your lucky stars they can't read and write and certainly cannot organise in politics.

Those who can read and write actually joined the established political Parties.

[supporttheunderdog]

Interesting how former Eastenders actor Michael Cashman MEP, a pro-gay rights campaigner, would put his name along side Maginnis, a well known homophobe, that equates homosexuality with beastiality.

I wonder if he knows this and on top of that his name being used to spread lies.

What has that got to do with anything the facts speak for themselves you GCs have stolen our rights and are milking them for what they are worth.

in the meatime the Turks have stolen both the rights and property of the displaced..

The 120,000 or so indigionous Cypriots who were driven from their homes by the Turkish Army are the true forgotten people.