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I don’t know what you’re still yapping about VP! As if Turkey would ever accept “Turkish Cypriots” to run anything independently!

What you’ve got now is the best it will ever get for as long as it lasts, so enjoy it and be quiet!

OK thats what we are trying to do but you people keep rocking the boat thinking you can get back the north.

Why are you worried? If you think Turkey won't abandon the north why do you care what the GCs are doing?

You know what they say keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

[Hermes]

I don’t know what you’re still yapping about VP! As if Turkey would ever accept “Turkish Cypriots” to run anything independently!

What you’ve got now is the best it will ever get for as long as it lasts, so enjoy it and be quiet!

OK thats what we are trying to do but you people keep rocking the boat thinking you can get back the north.

Why are you worried? If you think Turkey won't abandon the north why do you care what the GCs are doing?

You know what they say keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

So you think there's a possibility that Turkey might abandon the north for its own interests. And you come on here to reassure yourself that they won't?

Why don't you just go and see a therapist instead and explain to them all your concerns and leave us in peace. Or can't you afford it?

[Viewpoint]

What are you now blabbering on about? its making no sense what so ever. Herpeees we will not be forced by the GCs into minority status either you wise up and understand we are equal partners and treat us as such or you can keep looking north at the flag and dream about opportunities lost.

[Hermes]

What are you now blabbering on about? its making no sense what so ever. Herpeees we will not be forced by the GCs into minority status either you wise up and understand we are equal partners and treat us as such or you can keep looking north at the flag and dream about opportunities lost.

God you're confused. One second you say you want recognition or union with Turkey, next second you want to be our partners. Make up your mind. It's like negotiating with a schizophrenic.

[kimon07]

The ideology of Turkey being closer to the EU than actually joining is more important thats why they will never officially say its overs the ball is in the EU court but they know that officially rejecting Turkey would not only upset the USA but lose Turkey to the east forever which would create a problems in itself eg drugs people trafficking etc.

The EU has started accession. The rest is up to Turkey. Turkey has to follow the rules. It can't blackmail its way in. Turkey has lost a lot of credibility in the EU over Cyprus and things are much more difficult now for Turkey. The Turks have shot themselves in the foot over Cyprus. They never understood that withdrawing from Cyprus is actually the first test on which their EU membership hangs. I think they get it now. But like I said, it's up to Turkey to move the process forward...

Herpees Turkey has much bigger problems on her plate than Cyprus, she will never solve those......

How very true

......so your little trick of entering the EU....

Litle?? trick??

.......to force Turkey into submission just wont work.......

We got exactly what we wanted. Left the beast toothless.

.......and the leverage you dreamed of has all gone out of the window......,

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Turkey is not a European country and will never be allowed in...........

How very true!

......at best she will have some special deal but this is not what she wants........[/quote]

She knows she will not be allowed in but she does not want a special deal either? Are you totally confused VP? You used to contradict yourself every second post. Now its every second line in the same post.

[quote]..and she is not stupid she knows that no progress will be made so she will play the we want to join card and milk it for all its worth...welcome to ...[quote]

...the three stooges show (Erdogan-Gull-Davutoglou).

[Get Real!]

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I honestly don't see this pipeline going to Greece!

[Viewpoint]

What are you now blabbering on about? its making no sense what so ever. Herpeees we will not be forced by the GCs into minority status either you wise up and understand we are equal partners and treat us as such or you can keep looking north at the flag and dream about opportunities lost.

God you're confused. One second you say you want recognition or union with Turkey, next second you want to be our partners. Make up your mind. It's like negotiating with a schizophrenic.

Have you ever heard of the word options? if you had then you would know that we are debating the options available.

[Hermes]

Have you ever heard of the word options? if you had then you would know that we are debating the options available.

You stated quite clearly that your 'ultimate goal' is recognition or assimilation with Turkey. You did not say your ultimate goal was a federal solution. How can the GCs negotiate with people whose ultimate goal is partition?

Now do you see why the talks have ground to a halt and why GCs consider the TCs are not negotiating in good faith?

[Viewpoint]

Have you ever heard of the word options? if you had then you would know that we are debating the options available.

You stated quite clearly that your 'ultimate goal' is recognition or assimilation with Turkey. You did not say your ultimate goal was a federal solution. How can the GCs negotiate with people whose ultimate goal is partition?

Now do you see why the talks have ground to a halt and why GCs consider the TCs are not negotiating in good faith?

Herpees the option you offer does not exceed the option of division, I have never made it a secret that I believe division is the best option under the circumstances that neither side really want union, what you put forward is not better than division or assimilation with Turkey. Go on impress us so that we TCs can really say wow union is a far better OPTION than division.....I have asked this question many times and not one person has come up with anything that would come close to answering the question.

[Hermes]

Herpees the option you offer does not exceed the option of division, I have never made it a secret that I believe division is the best option under the circumstances that neither side really want union, what you put forward is not better than division or assimilation with Turkey. Go on impress us so that we TCs can really say wow union is a far better OPTION than division.....I have asked this question many times and not one person has come up with anything that would come close to answering the question.

Division might seem like the best option for you. Just as apartheid was seen as the best option for the racist Afrikaners in South Africa. The question is whether division is in the best interests of the majority of Cypriots and what sort of precedent this would set in international affairs if a state could be allowed to violate international law the way Turkey has done in Cyprus.

That is why the international community has decreed that division is not the right solution for Cyprus. Even if you think it is. Even the Afrikaners eventually realised that they only harmed themselves by insisting on racist privileges at the expense of democracy and peace...