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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:09 am

Yet another doom and gloom merchant, your predictions are like pissing in the wind its come back and hits you in the face look at Greece.
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Hermes » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:15 am

Viewpoint wrote:Whatever the reasons Turkey is not playing ball and knows she will never get in the EU Germany and France have told her, so your leverage is null and void.


So do you think there are other reasons than Turkey's EU membership for Turkey to want a solution in Cyprus?

Because Turkey could walk away from talks right now and declare the process dead, couldn't it?
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby kimon07 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:10 am

Viewpoint wrote:Yet another doom and gloom merchant, your predictions are like pissing in the wind its come back and hits you in the face look at Greece.


My dream for Turkey :lol:

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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby kimon07 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:31 am

Viewpoint wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:What do you think your pathetic comments will achieve? The fact that Turkey does not recognize the GC south nor has it opened any of its ports to the GC is proof enough that Turkey will choose the TCs over the EU because she knows she will never get in.


Wake up. Turkey is not choosing thew TCs. Its choosing North Cyprus at the expense of the TCs.


Rubbish she has ditched the EU for us ...........


So much for your credibility VP :twisted:

Egemen Bağış: ‘The EU must accept Turkey’

bagis.jpg


Joining the European Union remains a top priority for Turkey despite the economic crisis and controversy over comments made on the Armenian genocide. They’re also a key player in trying to resolve the Syrian crisis.
http://www.euronews.com/2012/02/10/egem ... pt-turkey/

Turkish Minister in charge of EU affairs Egemen Bagis insisted in May: “Turkey is changing, the EU is changing and the new Europe cannot be without Turkey,” he declared. “Until now, all countries that have started negotiations with the EU have become full members. Turkey will not be the first exception.”
http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/eas ... rope/59853
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:40 am

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Whatever the reasons Turkey is not playing ball and knows she will never get in the EU Germany and France have told her, so your leverage is null and void.


So do you think there are other reasons than Turkey's EU membership for Turkey to want a solution in Cyprus?

Because Turkey could walk away from talks right now and declare the process dead, couldn't it?


Why do that? what benefits would that bring? their current stance brings in more investment, did you know that their international investment rating was just increased.
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:42 am

kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Yet another doom and gloom merchant, your predictions are like pissing in the wind its come back and hits you in the face look at Greece.


My dream for Turkey :lol:

Turkey Reformed.jpg


:lol: So your planning on taking over and moving to Turkey.
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:44 am

kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:What do you think your pathetic comments will achieve? The fact that Turkey does not recognize the GC south nor has it opened any of its ports to the GC is proof enough that Turkey will choose the TCs over the EU because she knows she will never get in.


Wake up. Turkey is not choosing thew TCs. Its choosing North Cyprus at the expense of the TCs.


Rubbish she has ditched the EU for us ...........


So much for your credibility VP :twisted:

Egemen Bağış: ‘The EU must accept Turkey’

bagis.jpg


Joining the European Union remains a top priority for Turkey despite the economic crisis and controversy over comments made on the Armenian genocide. They’re also a key player in trying to resolve the Syrian crisis.
http://www.euronews.com/2012/02/10/egem ... pt-turkey/

Turkish Minister in charge of EU affairs Egemen Bagis insisted in May: “Turkey is changing, the EU is changing and the new Europe cannot be without Turkey,” he declared. “Until now, all countries that have started negotiations with the EU have become full members. Turkey will not be the first exception.”
http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/eas ... rope/59853


You obviously know nothing about how international politics works.
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Hermes » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:24 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Why do that? what benefits would that bring? their current stance brings in more investment, did you know that their international investment rating was just increased.

Exactly. Turkey needs the EU because it needs to attract foreign investment. Once it's clear that Turkey cannot join the EU then confidence in Turkey will decline as will that investment. Turkey cannot keep playing the game for ever. Sooner or later that investment will go elsewhere. In other words, Turkey will harm itself economically by not joining the EU and by not reforming. It will be held back by being outside the EU.
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:45 pm

kimon07 wrote:My dream for Turkey :lol:

My dream of Greece...
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:27 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Why do that? what benefits would that bring? their current stance brings in more investment, did you know that their international investment rating was just increased.

Exactly. Turkey needs the EU because it needs to attract foreign investment. Once it's clear that Turkey cannot join the EU then confidence in Turkey will decline as will that investment. Turkey cannot keep playing the game for ever. Sooner or later that investment will go elsewhere. In other words, Turkey will harm itself economically by not joining the EU and by not reforming. It will be held back by being outside the EU.



The ideology of Turkey being closer to the EU than actually joining is more important thats why they will never officially say its overs the ball is in the EU court but they know that officially rejecting Turkey would not only upset the USA but lose Turkey to the east forever which would create a problems in itself eg drugs people trafficking etc.
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