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[kimon07]

What is it you actually want......? ...it is not just the TC fault a lot more of the blame is firmly on the shoulders of the GCs.

I would say all of the blame is on our shoulders because, like I said many times in the past:

1. We didn't shoot Denktash in the head when we had him.
2. We didn't take St Hilarion when we could.
3. We let the Junta withdraw the Greek Division in 1967.

But who cares any more VP? Thanks to Denktash, the sovereignty of the RoC was saved in 2002 (no to Annan Plan 2) and now thanks to Eroglu the talks are over. So, we are back to Zero thank God. We start from scratch. Nothing has been agreed, everything taken back.

New EU compatible constitution immediately. Full minority rights to the TCs. THAT IS ALL you should be getting. Don't feel stupid. Be grateful

Its over...who said we are going to start form scratch? the north is just not interested.

So much the better. We draft the constitution on our own, we get EU and UN approval and then all that remains is for the international community to ask Turkey out. And then you join the new RoC as EU citizens with full minority status secured.

[Viewpoint]

What is it you actually want......? ...it is not just the TC fault a lot more of the blame is firmly on the shoulders of the GCs.

I would say all of the blame is on our shoulders because, like I said many times in the past:

1. We didn't shoot Denktash in the head when we had him.
2. We didn't take St Hilarion when we could.
3. We let the Junta withdraw the Greek Division in 1967.

But who cares any more VP? Thanks to Denktash, the sovereignty of the RoC was saved in 2002 (no to Annan Plan 2) and now thanks to Eroglu the talks are over. So, we are back to Zero thank God. We start from scratch. Nothing has been agreed, everything taken back.

New EU compatible constitution immediately. Full minority rights to the TCs. THAT IS ALL you should be getting. Don't feel stupid. Be grateful

Its over...who said we are going to start form scratch? the north is just not interested.

So much the better. We draft the constitution on our own, we get EU and UN approval and then all that remains is for the international community to ask Turkey out. And then you join the new RoC as EU citizens with full minority status secured.

You playing with yourself again? how will get Turkey out and the TC/North back if the do not want it?

[repulsewarrior]

...frankly vp, i think the "Turks" are doing very well getting themselves out, soon. i fear that Erdogan will go too far, too many flags, or one fewer by a shot, it seems that he is prepared to have a fourth term. a word to the wise though, thereis a price to pay, he calls his Turks of Cyprus parasites, it is clear that Turkish Cypriots have been reduced to a state of assimilation; except for the demonstrations, a paper like Afrika, the unions and the teachers, the youth, i would say that they are a silenced few.

[kimon07]

What is it you actually want......? ...it is not just the TC fault a lot more of the blame is firmly on the shoulders of the GCs.

I would say all of the blame is on our shoulders because, like I said many times in the past:

1. We didn't shoot Denktash in the head when we had him.
2. We didn't take St Hilarion when we could.
3. We let the Junta withdraw the Greek Division in 1967.

But who cares any more VP? Thanks to Denktash, the sovereignty of the RoC was saved in 2002 (no to Annan Plan 2) and now thanks to Eroglu the talks are over. So, we are back to Zero thank God. We start from scratch. Nothing has been agreed, everything taken back.

New EU compatible constitution immediately. Full minority rights to the TCs. THAT IS ALL you should be getting. Don't feel stupid. Be grateful

Its over...who said we are going to start form scratch? the north is just not interested.

So much the better. We draft the constitution on our own, we get EU and UN approval and then all that remains is for the international community to ask Turkey out. And then you join the new RoC as EU citizens with full minority status secured.

You playing with yourself again? how will get Turkey out and the TC/North back if they do not want it?

Ah but "they" i.e., TCs, DO want it. Just wait and see! You TMT guys will not be able to suppress them for ever. You see, thanks to the rest of us Cypriots, they have a chance to identify themselves now as EU citizens, and demand their lives and their country back from the Anatolians.

[Viewpoint]

You people are so misguided and informed TCs dont give a shit about going backwards and reliving AKritas and you will never get the Turkish Army to leave without the support of the TCs...time you started to take actions that will win over the TCs.

[kimon07]

You people are so misguided and informed TCs dont give a shit about going backwards and reliving AKritas and you will never get the Turkish Army to leave without the support of the TCs...time you started to take actions that will win over the TCs.

I agree. We should start preparing the new constitution and we should also start motivating all international institutions against the Turkish occupation and towards the implementation of the UN resolutions regarding Turkey and the illegal regime of the north. I bet actions like that will certainly win over the TCs. I mean the real ones. The ones who live in Cyrpus and struggle to survive the Turkish tyranny. Not the fake ones like you, who speak from the safety and the comfort and the luxury of some European or other western country.

[bill cobbett]

I agree. We should start preparing the new constitution and we should also start motivating all international institutions against the Turkish occupation and towards the implementation of the UN resolutions regarding Turkey and the illegal regime of the north. I bet actions like that will certainly win over the TCs. I mean the real ones. The ones who live in Cyrpus and struggle to survive the Turkish tyranny. Not the fake ones like you, who speak from the safety and the comfort and the luxury of some European or other western country.

Yes, well given these talks, like all the other ones over the decades, have got nowhere due to the maximalist demands of Turkey that the present situation is the solution, and in the face of the Turkish Annexation scaremongering and other threats, the Republic has a duty to protect its sovereignty by coming up with its own comprehensive plan for the future of CY, the time is ripe for it and yes one that's in line with all those UN Resolutions, respects the HR of all, one in line with the Principles and Values of the Union.... and one that gets the CYs of the Occupied Areas on board... it will be a BBF settlement, but not one "negotiated" by Turkey and designed to suit Turkey.

[wyoming cowboy]

You people are so misguided and informed TCs dont give a shit about going backwards and reliving AKritas and you will never get the Turkish Army to leave without the support of the TCs...time you started to take actions that will win over the TCs.

No Vp you are the one thats misguided, the rule of law will prevail on Eu territory whether you like it or not. The days of sitting back and spewing your antiquated trash talking nonsense will come to an end.....No plan B or plan ZZZZZZZZZZ, will get you out of your mess your way. Its obvious that Turkey without a Cyprus problem resolution will be left out of the eastern mediterranean equation......No hydrocarbons no Eu intergration and no relevance other then being the Mexico of Europe, cheap labor and cheap radio transistors.

[Viewpoint]

You people are so misguided and informed TCs dont give a shit about going backwards and reliving AKritas and you will never get the Turkish Army to leave without the support of the TCs...time you started to take actions that will win over the TCs.

No Vp you are the one thats misguided, the rule of law will prevail on Eu territory whether you like it or not. The days of sitting back and spewing your antiquated trash talking nonsense will come to an end.....No plan B or plan ZZZZZZZZZZ, will get you out of your mess your way. Its obvious that Turkey without a Cyprus problem resolution will be left out of the eastern mediterranean equation......No hydrocarbons no Eu intergration and no relevance other then being the Mexico of Europe, cheap labor and cheap radio transistors.

So what? You cannot unite Cyprus without our say so.

[Kikapu]

You people are so misguided and informed TCs dont give a shit about going backwards and reliving AKritas and you will never get the Turkish Army to leave without the support of the TCs...time you started to take actions that will win over the TCs.

No Vp you are the one thats misguided, the rule of law will prevail on Eu territory whether you like it or not. The days of sitting back and spewing your antiquated trash talking nonsense will come to an end.....No plan B or plan ZZZZZZZZZZ, will get you out of your mess your way. Its obvious that Turkey without a Cyprus problem resolution will be left out of the eastern mediterranean equation......No hydrocarbons no Eu intergration and no relevance other then being the Mexico of Europe, cheap labor and cheap radio transistors.

So what? You cannot unite Cyprus without our say so.

Sure they can, because Turkey owns your ass. Only Turkey has a say so in the north and not the remaining insignificant number of real TCs. As our good friend Kifeas would tell you over and over again, that you are ONLY farting with someone else's ass.!