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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:23 am

Time you got off "If I was just as morally corrupted as you" high horse, if my aim is partition then yours is selling the Tcs out under a disguised plan that will in time hand the whole island to the Gcs on a plate and demote us into minority status.

You really need to get a grasp of what I am saying, where in any of my posts I have stated that refugess shoudl not get restitution? whaer have I said that under a BBf people can move around freely and settle where ever they wish? I adovacate that every Cypriot be give the freedom to choose which admınıstration the wish to live under but what you want to force down our throats is a GC majority that will over time take control of both states leaving us out in the cold with no partnership rights.

Firstly you need to understand that yes for me partition under the current circumstanciesi taking into account 20 years of living on this island seeing and hearing first hand the attitudes of both sides is the best option but I am willing to be persuaded otherwise. Unfortunately to date no ne has been able to put forward any arguments that will make life 1000 times better for everyone who lives on this island. The democracy and human rights text book theory you weald about is not cutting it as I said before one side does not fit all and without transition periods guarantees checks and balances, you cannot just dismiss this procedural must as its this period that will build understanding and tollerance, a time to see that union is better than division and evolving into one people. Your heavy handed approach will never work as people lack the trust, desire and determinaiton to take the leap of faith you think should come automatically. This shows you have absolutely no understanding the Cyprus problem and how people really think in real life on this island.
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:24 am

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humanist wrote:The TC"s are weird breed of people Kikapu, apologies as you are TC yourself. But they cannot stand the settlers but yet cannot stand the GC's either. Their way of thinking will lead them to extinction.



Kikapoo is not a TC.


Kikapoo may not be, but for sure, Kikapu is! :wink: :lol:


Neither are accepted as TCs you lost that chance a long time ago only thing is your are blind you never realized it. (just out of interest were you banished or thrown out by the TCs as a traitor during the 1950s 1960s???)
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:10 am

Viewpoint wrote:
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humanist wrote:The TC"s are weird breed of people Kikapu, apologies as you are TC yourself. But they cannot stand the settlers but yet cannot stand the GC's either. Their way of thinking will lead them to extinction.



Kikapoo is not a TC.


Kikapoo may not be, but for sure, Kikapu is! :wink: :lol:


Neither are accepted as TCs you lost that chance a long time ago only thing is your are blind you never realized it. (just out of interest were you banished or thrown out by the TCs as a traitor during the 1950s 1960s???)


Says the foreigner! :lol:

Yes, when I was born in 50's, I was born morally intact, which made me a traitor in the eyes of Racist Fascists like you, who were/are morally corrupt to the core! :lol:
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:17 am

Viewpoint wrote:Time you got off "If I was just as morally corrupted as you" high horse, if my aim is partition then yours is selling the Tcs out under a disguised plan that will in time hand the whole island to the Gcs on a plate and demote us into minority status.

You really need to get a grasp of what I am saying, where in any of my posts I have stated that refugess shoudl not get restitution? whaer have I said that under a BBf people can move around freely and settle where ever they wish? I adovacate that every Cypriot be give the freedom to choose which admınıstration the wish to live under but what you want to force down our throats is a GC majority that will over time take control of both states leaving us out in the cold with no partnership rights.

Firstly you need to understand that yes for me partition under the current circumstanciesi taking into account 20 years of living on this island seeing and hearing first hand the attitudes of both sides is the best option but I am willing to be persuaded otherwise. Unfortunately to date no ne has been able to put forward any arguments that will make life 1000 times better for everyone who lives on this island. The democracy and human rights text book theory you weald about is not cutting it as I said before one side does not fit all and without transition periods guarantees checks and balances, you cannot just dismiss this procedural must as its this period that will build understanding and tollerance, a time to see that union is better than division and evolving into one people. Your heavy handed approach will never work as people lack the trust, desire and determinaiton to take the leap of faith you think should come automatically. This shows you have absolutely no understanding the Cyprus problem and how people really think in real life on this island.


Explains how Turkish politics works, which you really adore!

I was correct when I said you are not interested in Checks & Balances! :wink:

When the issue of a presidential system was recently raised, a parallel was drawn between the system and the resolution of the Kurdish conflict. Some argued that a presidential system could be a better option if it were introduced along with a decentralized mechanism, using the federal states of the American presidential system as a model. However, it is a fact that the pro-presidential voices within the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) are totally opposed to that system. In Turkish politics there is no appreciation of the role played by provinces, states and regions as autonomous administrative units in the system of checks and balances.

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-28 ... -zone.html
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:45 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Time you got off "If I was just as morally corrupted as you" high horse, if my aim is partition then yours is selling the Tcs out under a disguised plan that will in time hand the whole island to the Gcs on a plate and demote us into minority status.

You really need to get a grasp of what I am saying, where in any of my posts I have stated that refugess shoudl not get restitution? whaer have I said that under a BBf people can move around freely and settle where ever they wish? I adovacate that every Cypriot be give the freedom to choose which admınıstration the wish to live under but what you want to force down our throats is a GC majority that will over time take control of both states leaving us out in the cold with no partnership rights.

Firstly you need to understand that yes for me partition under the current circumstanciesi taking into account 20 years of living on this island seeing and hearing first hand the attitudes of both sides is the best option but I am willing to be persuaded otherwise. Unfortunately to date no ne has been able to put forward any arguments that will make life 1000 times better for everyone who lives on this island. The democracy and human rights text book theory you weald about is not cutting it as I said before one side does not fit all and without transition periods guarantees checks and balances, you cannot just dismiss this procedural must as its this period that will build understanding and tollerance, a time to see that union is better than division and evolving into one people. Your heavy handed approach will never work as people lack the trust, desire and determinaiton to take the leap of faith you think should come automatically. This shows you have absolutely no understanding the Cyprus problem and how people really think in real life on this island.


Explains how Turkish politics works, which you really adore!

I was correct when I said you are not interested in Checks & Balances! :wink:

When the issue of a presidential system was recently raised, a parallel was drawn between the system and the resolution of the Kurdish conflict. Some argued that a presidential system could be a better option if it were introduced along with a decentralized mechanism, using the federal states of the American presidential system as a model. However, it is a fact that the pro-presidential voices within the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) are totally opposed to that system. In Turkish politics there is no appreciation of the role played by provinces, states and regions as autonomous administrative units in the system of checks and balances.

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-28 ... -zone.html


And you are terrified of them, I wonder why? are you pretending to be something you are not, or is that you want to use the viel of democracy and human rights to force TCs into submission?

Always knew you were are traitor so the TCs threw you our of the north and you cna no longer return....thats why you are so anti TCs and Turks or anything remotely Turkish.
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby B25 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:05 pm

One minute hes not a TC, then the next he's atraitor. Make upyour mind will ya, you're confusing me :) :)
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:12 pm

B25 wrote:One minute hes not a TC, then the next he's atraitor. Make upyour mind will ya, you're confusing me :) :)


That's because VP is a very confused person to begin with! :lol:

It comes from being morally corrupt! :wink:
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:20 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Time you got off "If I was just as morally corrupted as you" high horse, if my aim is partition then yours is selling the Tcs out under a disguised plan that will in time hand the whole island to the Gcs on a plate and demote us into minority status.

You really need to get a grasp of what I am saying, where in any of my posts I have stated that refugess shoudl not get restitution? whaer have I said that under a BBf people can move around freely and settle where ever they wish? I adovacate that every Cypriot be give the freedom to choose which admınıstration the wish to live under but what you want to force down our throats is a GC majority that will over time take control of both states leaving us out in the cold with no partnership rights.

Firstly you need to understand that yes for me partition under the current circumstanciesi taking into account 20 years of living on this island seeing and hearing first hand the attitudes of both sides is the best option but I am willing to be persuaded otherwise. Unfortunately to date no ne has been able to put forward any arguments that will make life 1000 times better for everyone who lives on this island. The democracy and human rights text book theory you weald about is not cutting it as I said before one side does not fit all and without transition periods guarantees checks and balances, you cannot just dismiss this procedural must as its this period that will build understanding and tollerance, a time to see that union is better than division and evolving into one people. Your heavy handed approach will never work as people lack the trust, desire and determinaiton to take the leap of faith you think should come automatically. This shows you have absolutely no understanding the Cyprus problem and how people really think in real life on this island.


Explains how Turkish politics works, which you really adore!

I was correct when I said you are not interested in Checks & Balances! :wink:

When the issue of a presidential system was recently raised, a parallel was drawn between the system and the resolution of the Kurdish conflict. Some argued that a presidential system could be a better option if it were introduced along with a decentralized mechanism, using the federal states of the American presidential system as a model. However, it is a fact that the pro-presidential voices within the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) are totally opposed to that system. In Turkish politics there is no appreciation of the role played by provinces, states and regions as autonomous administrative units in the system of checks and balances.

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-28 ... -zone.html


And you are terrified of them, I wonder why? are you pretending to be something you are not, or is that you want to use the viel of democracy and human rights to force TCs into submission?

Always knew you were are traitor so the TCs threw you our of the north and you cna no longer return....thats why you are so anti TCs and Turks or anything remotely Turkish.


I have lived in a systems of Checks & Balances all my life, specially in a Federation and Confederation countries where everyone's rights are preserved and protected. What you want is not Checks & Balances for everyone, but an "Apartheid Democracy" that only protects you and your ilk while you commit injustices to others. Dream on, Bozo.

One needs to be in the north before they can be thrown out.......Twit! :lol:

In any case, if I were to have been in the north, the only place I would be thrown into for speaking my mind, would be in jail, if not in a grave. That's your kind of Checks & Balances! :lol:
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:09 pm

B25 wrote:One minute hes not a TC, then the next he's atraitor. Make upyour mind will ya, you're confusing me :) :)


It dont take much.
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Re: The Meaning of A Federal Solution

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:14 pm

kikapoo you have really lost the plot after all these years you still havent got a clue of what TCs want and never will.

Plus I think I know who you are, a traitor who was sent backing never to return for crimes committed against TCs.
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