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[Hermes]

is a Greek Constituecy such a bad thing?

Federal means, not a Greek State, but a Cypriot State, as in Bicommunal Bizonal; it is a question of interpretation and intent, that is all. i see no better way to defend the existing Constituencies, within a Sovereign Identity; a weight by land that its electors can effect as a Distinct Identity , while as Individuals they stand united for the betterment of the Human Condition.

There is no room in the European Union or the region for internal divisions. The Turkish-Cypriot leadership needs to realise that the bi-zonal aspect of a reunification plan does not mean a two-state confederation, but rather means reunifying the Turkish-Cypriots with the original government of the island - the Republic of Cyprus - which itself should offer a fair and viable administration.

[Viewpoint]

is a Greek Constituecy such a bad thing?

Federal means, not a Greek State, but a Cypriot State, as in Bicommunal Bizonal; it is a question of interpretation and intent, that is all. i see no better way to defend the existing Constituencies, within a Sovereign Identity; a weight by land that its electors can effect as a Distinct Identity , while as Individuals they stand united for the betterment of the Human Condition.

There is no room in the European Union or the region for internal divisions. The Turkish-Cypriot leadership needs to realise that the bi-zonal aspect of a reunification plan does not mean a two-state confederation, but rather means reunifying the Turkish-Cypriots with the original government of the island - the Republic of Cyprus - which itself should offer a fair and viable administration.

Should being the operative word but wont there has to be plenty of checks and balances to force them to do so and definitely 2 states administered by each community.

[Hermes]

I refer you to the original post. Points 2 and 3:

2. Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

3. UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

[Viewpoint]

I refer you to the original post. Points 2 and 3:

2. Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

3. UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

Totally agree the GCs have never wanted to share by supporting a BBf with political equality, their aim has always been a unitary GC state with TCs as just another minority, thats why for 38 years there has and never will a solution.

[CBBB]

I refer you to the original post. Points 2 and 3:

2. Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

3. UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

Totally agree the GCs have never wanted to share by supporting a BBf with political equality, their aim has always been a unitary GC state with TCs as just another minority, thats why for 38 years there has and never will a solution.

Even more originality from VP!

[Viewpoint]

I refer you to the original post. Points 2 and 3:

2. Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

3. UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

Totally agree the GCs have never wanted to share by supporting a BBf with political equality, their aim has always been a unitary GC state with TCs as just another minority, thats why for 38 years there has and never will a solution.

Even more originality from VP!

the truth speaks for itself you dont need any originality or innovation just the truth.

[CBBB]

I refer you to the original post. Points 2 and 3:

2. Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

3. UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

Totally agree the GCs have never wanted to share by supporting a BBf with political equality, their aim has always been a unitary GC state with TCs as just another minority, thats why for 38 years there has and never will a solution.

Even more originality from VP!

the truth speaks for itself you dont need any originality or innovation just the truth.

Well you had better go and find out the truth!

[Kikapu]

I refer you to the original post. Points 2 and 3:

2. Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

3. UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

Totally agree the GCs have never wanted to share by supporting a BBf with political equality, their aim has always been a unitary GC state with TCs as just another minority, thats why for 38 years there has and never will a solution.

More BS from "I'm a partitionist at heart" clown.

In the USA, the great state of Utah is a "Mormon state", but it does not mean ONLY Mormon Americans can live there nor does it mean ONLY the Mormon Americans can be in the government of Utah, but since the majority of those living in Utah are Mormon Americans, eventhough they are in fact a Minority group in the USA, naturally, most political offices will be held by the Mormons in the state of Utah, and also makes Utah "Politically Equal" to all the other states in the US, which they send their 2 senators to the US senate, as equals. Just replace Utah with the north in a True Federation Cyprus, and you have what the UN, EU and the RoC backs. Only the fascists such as yourself and the likes of you in the north and Turkey does not back the above, because your aims is to partition, so when Denktash agreed to BBF, he made the mistake of not asking for BBC, as in Confederation. Too bad for the Fascists, because you are stuck with BBF with EU norms as of 2004. The alternative to BBF with EU norms, is going to be Unitary state with EU norms. Take your pick!

[Viewpoint]

I refer you to the original post. Points 2 and 3:

2. Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

3. UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

Totally agree the GCs have never wanted to share by supporting a BBf with political equality, their aim has always been a unitary GC state with TCs as just another minority, thats why for 38 years there has and never will a solution.

More BS from "I'm a partitionist at heart" clown.

In the USA, the great state of Utah is a "Mormon state", but it does not mean ONLY Mormon Americans can live there nor does it mean ONLY the Mormon Americans can be in the government of Utah, but since the majority of those living in Utah are Mormon Americans, eventhough they are in fact a Minority group in the USA, naturally, most political offices will be held by the Mormons in the state of Utah, and also makes Utah "Politically Equal" to all the other states in the US, which they send their 2 senators to the US senate, as equals. Just replace Utah with the north in a True Federation Cyprus, and you have what the UN, EU and the RoC backs. Only the fascists such as yourself and the likes of you in the north and Turkey does not back the above, because your aims is to partition, so when Denktash agreed to BBF, he made the mistake of not asking for BBC, as in Confederation. Too bad for the Fascists, because you are stuck with BBF with EU norms as of 2004. The alternative to BBF with EU norms, is going to be Unitary state with EU norms. Take your pick!

Dear Kikapu we have been debating for years and you knwo full well that we cannot go from square 1 to 50 on day 1. The USA is a matured democracy where they have evolved into one people Americans and are proud of it. While on my visit I asked people who looked like Mexican and Far East where are you from they ouwl proudly announce Im from the USA and that they are Americans. For us this is not the case and you cannot force this as the 2 sides have been divided far to long for this sort of response, we need transition periods guarantees checks and balances to go through the eolving stages necessary to become one people. Our problem is that the checks and balances we ask for which are vital in order to evolve you deny me, your denial only fuels my mistrust and makes me dig my heels in even further. You yourself claim that what we ask for is not necessary and that over time it will become redundent as the evolution will show that we will all be better off united than divided as we are today. But in order for us to take that first step we have to be encouraged and not forced, wehave to be given guarantees checks and balances that will over time become redundent but your approach has not yielded any results in over 52 years of negotiaitions, isnt it time you tried something new and allowed evolution to happen?

[CBBB]

I refer you to the original post. Points 2 and 3:

2. Whether you call it the RoC or the United Cyprus Federation doesn't really matter, what counts is fair representation for all communities that make up Cyprus' population.

3. UN resolutions talk about a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on political equality. Clinging to the idea of legalising the 'TRNC' - or two-states - is one of the reasons negotiations have been going nowhere. This has not happened for 37 years, there's no reason for it to happen anytime soon.

Totally agree the GCs have never wanted to share by supporting a BBf with political equality, their aim has always been a unitary GC state with TCs as just another minority, thats why for 38 years there has and never will a solution.

More BS from "I'm a partitionist at heart" clown.

In the USA, the great state of Utah is a "Mormon state", but it does not mean ONLY Mormon Americans can live there nor does it mean ONLY the Mormon Americans can be in the government of Utah, but since the majority of those living in Utah are Mormon Americans, eventhough they are in fact a Minority group in the USA, naturally, most political offices will be held by the Mormons in the state of Utah, and also makes Utah "Politically Equal" to all the other states in the US, which they send their 2 senators to the US senate, as equals. Just replace Utah with the north in a True Federation Cyprus, and you have what the UN, EU and the RoC backs. Only the fascists such as yourself and the likes of you in the north and Turkey does not back the above, because your aims is to partition, so when Denktash agreed to BBF, he made the mistake of not asking for BBC, as in Confederation. Too bad for the Fascists, because you are stuck with BBF with EU norms as of 2004. The alternative to BBF with EU norms, is going to be Unitary state with EU norms. Take your pick!

Dear Kikapu we have been debating for years and you knwo full well that we cannot go from square 1 to 50 on day 1. The USA is a matured democracy where they have evolved into one people Americans and are proud of it. While on my visit I asked people who looked like Mexican and Far East where are you from they ouwl proudly announce Im from the USA and that they are Americans. For us this is not the case and you cannot force this as the 2 sides have been divided far to long for this sort of response, we need transition periods guarantees checks and balances to go through the eolving stages necessary to become one people. Our problem is that the checks and balances we ask for which are vital in order to evolve you deny me, your denial only fuels my mistrust and makes me dig my heels in even further. You yourself claim that what we ask for is not necessary and that over time it will become redundent as the evolution will show that we will all be better off united than divided as we are today. But in order for us to take that first step we have to be encouraged and not forced, wehave to be given guarantees checks and balances that will over time become redundent but your approach has not yielded any results in over 52 years of negotiaitions, isnt it time you tried something new and allowed evolution to happen?

When you have evolved above an amoeba give us a call.