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[B25]

Great, another reason for the TCs in the north to feel that the GCs dont wish them any good. Does anyone know if the hotels in question are owned and operated by TCs or mainlanders?

If mainlander then ok, but if TCs then why should they trust the GCs? Looks like this will continue to force the TC business to continue to seek custom from Turkey.

Long Live the Bash Patriots and Partition!

What a pathetic post, but then again you expect such trash from a carpetbagger.

The campaign was against the illegal occupied areas, not the TCs in particular, but as you have no problem supporting the illegal regime it has blinded you senses.

Supporting the illegal occupied areas is supporting Turkey to maintain a hold on us, is that too F difficult to understand, damn it.

[bill cobbett]

Yes, the campaign wasn't just about the three hotels being promoted by Aegean on its web-site and there is evidence that two of the three are legitimate "tc" run establishments.

The campaign was against the promotion of tourism in the Occupied Areas where the legitimate "tc" hotels are in a very small minority as almost all the hotels are run by those who serve the Illegal Regime and illegal mainlanders on stolen lands.

[AWE]

DP

[AWE]

Great, another reason for the TCs in the north to feel that the GCs dont wish them any good. Does anyone know if the hotels in question are owned and operated by TCs or mainlanders?

If mainlander then ok, but if TCs then why should they trust the GCs? Looks like this will continue to force the TC business to continue to seek custom from Turkey.

Long Live the Bash Patriots and Partition!

What a pathetic post, but then again you expect such trash from a carpetbagger.

The campaign was against the illegal occupied areas, not the TCs in particular, but as you have no problem supporting the illegal regime it has blinded you senses.

Supporting the illegal occupied areas is supporting Turkey to maintain a hold on us, is that too F difficult to understand, damn it.

B25,

Do you support the TCs economic activity that is independent of Turkey?

As BC points out 2 of the 3 are TC owned/operated, this campaign has damaged their business, so the question then becomes why should they trust the GCs? after all the actions of the GCs has just confirmed the propaganda of the partitionists i.e. they hate us blah blah...

I have a TC friend, his family business in a hotel and they have to rely on business from Turkey or they would have gone bust years ago (his words not mine), although the hotel is on the list of pre-74 hotels as TC owned, they have a hard time getting business from elsewhere.

Hurting TCs economically damages chances of a solution, is that too F difficult to understand, damn it.

[AWE]

Yes, the campaign wasn't just about the three hotels being promoted by Aegean on its web-site and there is evidence that two of the three are legitimate "tc" run establishments.

So a shotgun approach is better than something more targeted? Come on Bill this campaign has damaged who the TCs or Turkey?

The campaign was against the promotion of tourism in the Occupied Areas where the legitimate "tc" hotels are in a very small minority as almost all the hotels are run by those who serve the Illegal Regime and illegal mainlanders on stolen lands.

I would love to see your evidence for this, most of the smaller hotels are TCs owned with the big "5 Star Casino Hotels" being mainlander owned.

[bill cobbett]

Great, another reason for the TCs in the north to feel that the GCs dont wish them any good. Does anyone know if the hotels in question are owned and operated by TCs or mainlanders?

If mainlander then ok, but if TCs then why should they trust the GCs? Looks like this will continue to force the TC business to continue to seek custom from Turkey.

Long Live the Bash Patriots and Partition!

What a pathetic post, but then again you expect such trash from a carpetbagger.

The campaign was against the illegal occupied areas, not the TCs in particular, but as you have no problem supporting the illegal regime it has blinded you senses.

Supporting the illegal occupied areas is supporting Turkey to maintain a hold on us, is that too F difficult to understand, damn it.

B25,

Do you support the TCs economic activity that is independent of Turkey?

As BC points out 2 of the 3 are TC owned/operated, this campaign has damaged their business, so the question then becomes why should they trust the GCs? after all the actions of the GCs has just confirmed the propaganda of the partitionists i.e. they hate us blah blah...

I have a TC friend, his family business in a hotel and they have to rely on business from Turkey or they would have gone bust years ago (his words not mine), although the hotel is on the list of pre-74 hotels as TC owned, they have a hard time getting business from elsewhere.

Hurting TCs economically damages chances of a solution, is that too F difficult to understand, damn it.

Well, perhaps before B25 answers that reh Awe, there is another question... to what extent is "tc" commercial activity independent of the Illegal Regime... ?

Now the Republic has no problem with people going about lawful business in the Occupied Areas and it's down on record that it advices visitors to avoid the Stolen Hotels and use only those on its lists which it sees as legitimately owned.

... but don't even those hotels (and they seem by the way to be small, long-established, family-run affairs on legitimate ancestral lands) who get this approval from the Republic pay taxes on profits, employ staff who pay taxes, pay purchase taxes on their goods etc etc and doesn't that tax money go in the end to the Illegal Regime and help sustain it...???

[GreekIslandGirl]

It's irrelevant if the TCs living in the occupied area are "damaged" or if Turkey is damaged. The TCs are free to go wherever they want!

They are both culpable for the apartheid being imposed against GCs.

[B25]

Great, another reason for the TCs in the north to feel that the GCs dont wish them any good. Does anyone know if the hotels in question are owned and operated by TCs or mainlanders?

If mainlander then ok, but if TCs then why should they trust the GCs? Looks like this will continue to force the TC business to continue to seek custom from Turkey.

Long Live the Bash Patriots and Partition!

What a pathetic post, but then again you expect such trash from a carpetbagger.

The campaign was against the illegal occupied areas, not the TCs in particular, but as you have no problem supporting the illegal regime it has blinded you senses.

Supporting the illegal occupied areas is supporting Turkey to maintain a hold on us, is that too F difficult to understand, damn it.

B25,

Hurting TCs economically damages chances of a solution, is that too F difficult to understand, damn it.

I don't give a shit about their business, they and you are supporting an illegal regime period. 82% of the land in the north belongs to GCs, visitors do not have the permission of the legal owners to go on it. The TCs can pay their taxes to the RoC. You can't have it both ways, not contribute, get free everything AND expect to take tourists from the south, but like I keep saying once a carpet bagger, always a carpet bagger, now go F yourself, foreigner.

[AWE]

Great, another reason for the TCs in the north to feel that the GCs dont wish them any good. Does anyone know if the hotels in question are owned and operated by TCs or mainlanders?

If mainlander then ok, but if TCs then why should they trust the GCs? Looks like this will continue to force the TC business to continue to seek custom from Turkey.

Long Live the Bash Patriots and Partition!

What a pathetic post, but then again you expect such trash from a carpetbagger.

The campaign was against the illegal occupied areas, not the TCs in particular, but as you have no problem supporting the illegal regime it has blinded you senses.

Supporting the illegal occupied areas is supporting Turkey to maintain a hold on us, is that too F difficult to understand, damn it.

B25,

Hurting TCs economically damages chances of a solution, is that too F difficult to understand, damn it.

I don't give a shit about their business, they and you are supporting an illegal regime period. 82% of the land in the north belongs to GCs, visitors do not have the permission of the legal owners to go on it. The TCs can pay their taxes to the RoC. You can't have it both ways, not contribute, get free everything AND expect to take tourists from the south, but like I keep saying once a carpet bagger, always a carpet bagger, now go F yourself, foreigner.

My family property was bought in 1968 and the mortgagee to Bank Of Cyprus has been paid. I am not a carpetbagger. I do not support the direction of the economy in the north - too dependent on Turkey and dodgy due to the casinos. But feel that things that hurt TC business in the north are counter productive.

I get the feeling that you don't give a shit about TCs and would do a Tohkni on them?

[AWE]

Well, perhaps before B25 answers that reh Awe, there is another question... to what extent is "tc" commercial activity independent of the Illegal Regime... ?

... but don't even those hotels (and they seem by the way to be small, long-established, family-run affairs on legitimate ancestral lands) who get this approval from the Republic pay taxes on profits, employ staff who pay taxes, pay purchase taxes on their goods etc etc and doesn't that tax money go in the end to the Illegal Regime and help sustain it...???

No business can operate in a region without being subject to the law of that area. As such even if their clients and staff are not mainlanders or settlers they will have to pay tax to the government of that area or face imprisonment etc. I guess it is easy for GCs to say that TCs should not undertake any activity in the north that may support the regime from the outside but a lot harder to TCs to actually do that. You are being disingenuous if you believe otherwise.

Now the Republic has no problem with people going about lawful business in the Occupied Areas and it's down on record that it advices visitors to avoid the Stolen Hotels and use only those on its lists which it sees as legitimately owned.

This list has in the past been proven inaccurate, Celebrity Hotel for instance. Do GCs use TC property in the South? If they do they TCs have the right to use GC property in the North in both cases pending a solution of course. Or would you have them live in penury?