Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu wrote:Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu wrote:Viewpoint wrote:We have not only had babies these babies have grown up and had babies of their own 38 years is a long time and annual poplation growth rate of 1% is average when you look at world figures is about right.
Why do you want to represent a people that do not want you? it must be the benefits cant be anything else.
For every TC who holds a RoC passport, the RoC represents them whether they like it or not, and since majority TCs do hold RoC passports and citizenship, they are represented by the RoC. Period!
If the TCs do not want to be represented by the RoC, then they should abdicate their RoC citizenship and passports. I can guarantee you, you will not have many takers, because if they did, they will become just as illegals as the Turkish settlers. The TCs want to be citizens of the RoC, and as a citizen, the RoC government represents them. Is that so hard to figure out?
Total rubbish, the TCs only take passports for the easy visa free travel they have no commitment to or support the "RoC" and they do not want the GCs to repreent them in shape or form, how can they TCs didnt vote for the GCs leaders who claim to represent all Cypriots, they probably even havent met any TCs...as for giving back these passports, if you offered recognition in return the whole TC population would throw these passports over the border immediately, then Kikapooo you can pick them up and strike them off the "RoC" registers.
Listen dummy, you can hiss and puff all you want, but the law is the law. If I enter into a marriage with someone just for convenience sake, and should the person I married to owes the government tons of taxes from the past, I will be equally responsible to pay these taxes. In law, you cannot pick and choose what you want to keep and what you want to throw out. I don't give a rats ass on what reasons the TCs take on the RoC passports for. The fact that they do, they are then allowing themselves to be represented by the institution who is providing that passport, and in this case, it is the RoC. The fact that the name "Turkish Cypriot" the TCs use can ONLY come by being a citizen of the RoC and not that fake illegal entity called the "trnc". TCs do not even need to take on RoC passports or vote for anyone to be citizens of the RoC. It is engraved in stone since 1960 that they are citizens of the RoC. The ONLY way for a TC not to be a TC any longer, hence no longer a RoC citizen, is to renounce their citizenship to the RoC, in which case, they will become Illegals in Cyprus without an identity, unless they also hold another citizenship from another recognised state.!
This passport thingy has only been taken up on mass since the south joined the EU, you always claimed to solely represent the island without TC input or support...they take the freebies exactly for that reason because you have to provide them otherwise how can you claim to represent all Cypriots, I dare you take them away and immediate recognition of the TRNC would occur....you cannot represent a people who denounce and reject you. Put that in your pipe dumb ass.
I believe it is time to use our good friend Iceman's signature again, to describe you.
Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience...Dilbert
You have said nothing to counter my arguments, because you simply cannot. Instead you went on about nothing. The RoC has no intentions of ever taking back the RoC passports from the TCs as long as the whole island is recognised by the UN and the EU as being the RoC territory, because it simple cannot and would not, and it has nothing to do with your imaginary threats, that if the RoC were to pull the passports from the TCs, that the "trnc" would become recognised. The recognition did not come to the "trnc" before 2004 when the RoC was not in the EU and according to you, almost no TCs had RoC passports before 2004, but ONLY after 2004, when the WHOLE island became part of the EU and not the garbage you try to peddle, that only the south became an EU member. The fact that you try to propagandise the facts to something fabricated by Turkey and the fascists in the north, only shows the weakness in trying to reduce the RoC to something less than what the whole world sees and knows.
In contrast, Turkey and the Fascists in the north are the minute minority in the world in thinking the way they do regarding the RoC, which does not reflect the reality. As I said, it is irrelevant for what reasons and when the TCs have taken RoC's passport. It is the consequences of their action that counts, which is, when they accept the RoC's passports, they accept to be represented by the RoC. You can turn blue in the face, and still will not change the facts. Just the TCs calling themselves a TC makes them a citizen of the RoC.
Just for your information, many TCs had RoC passports way before 1974. I had mine in 1964, and I'm certain so did many other TCs. How does that make you feel, that majority TCs are actually RoC passport holders and 100% of the TCs are RoC citizens, regardless if they want to be or not, short of denouncing their RoC citizenship. majority have not and will not, because they neither trust the "trnc" nor Turkey. They want to hold onto their RoC citizenship for security, which is worth far more than what the "trnc" and Turkey is offering them in the long run. At the end of the day, the RoC is the home for ALL TCs along with other Cypriots..
