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[Kikapu]

We have not only had babies these babies have grown up and had babies of their own 38 years is a long time and annual poplation growth rate of 1% is average when you look at world figures is about right.

Why do you want to represent a people that do not want you? it must be the benefits cant be anything else.

For every TC who holds a RoC passport, the RoC represents them whether they like it or not, and since majority TCs do hold RoC passports and citizenship, they are represented by the RoC. Period!

If the TCs do not want to be represented by the RoC, then they should abdicate their RoC citizenship and passports. I can guarantee you, you will not have many takers, because if they did, they will become just as illegals as the Turkish settlers. The TCs want to be citizens of the RoC, and as a citizen, the RoC government represents them. Is that so hard to figure out?

[Viewpoint]

We have not only had babies these babies have grown up and had babies of their own 38 years is a long time and annual poplation growth rate of 1% is average when you look at world figures is about right.

Why do you want to represent a people that do not want you? it must be the benefits cant be anything else.

For every TC who holds a RoC passport, the RoC represents them whether they like it or not, and since majority TCs do hold RoC passports and citizenship, they are represented by the RoC. Period!

If the TCs do not want to be represented by the RoC, then they should abdicate their RoC citizenship and passports. I can guarantee you, you will not have many takers, because if they did, they will become just as illegals as the Turkish settlers. The TCs want to be citizens of the RoC, and as a citizen, the RoC government represents them. Is that so hard to figure out?

Total rubbish, the TCs only take passports for the easy visa free travel they have no commitment to or support the "RoC" and they do not want the GCs to repreent them in shape or form, how can they TCs didnt vote for the GCs leaders who claim to represent all Cypriots, they probably even havent met any TCs...as for giving back these passports, if you offered recognition in return the whole TC population would throw these passports over the border immediately, then Kikapooo you can pick them up and strike them off the "RoC" registers.

[Maximus]

We have not only had babies these babies have grown up and had babies of their own 38 years is a long time and annual poplation growth rate of 1% is average when you look at world figures is about right.

Why do you want to represent a people that do not want you? it must be the benefits cant be anything else.

For every TC who holds a RoC passport, the RoC represents them whether they like it or not, and since majority TCs do hold RoC passports and citizenship, they are represented by the RoC. Period!

If the TCs do not want to be represented by the RoC, then they should abdicate their RoC citizenship and passports. I can guarantee you, you will not have many takers, because if they did, they will become just as illegals as the Turkish settlers. The TCs want to be citizens of the RoC, and as a citizen, the RoC government represents them. Is that so hard to figure out?

Total rubbish, the TCs only take passports for the easy visa free travel they have no commitment to or support the "RoC" and they do not want the GCs to repreent them in shape or form, how can they TCs didnt vote for the GCs leaders who claim to represent all Cypriots, they probably even havent met any TCs...as for giving back these passports, if you offered recognition in return the whole TC population would throw these passports over the border immediately, then Kikapooo you can pick them up and strike them off the "RoC" registers.

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[Hermes]

Total rubbish, the TCs only take passports for the easy visa free travel they have no commitment to or support the "RoC" and they do not want the GCs to repreent them in shape or form, how can they TCs didnt vote for the GCs leaders who claim to represent all Cypriots, they probably even havent met any TCs...as for giving back these passports, if you offered recognition in return the whole TC population would throw these passports over the border immediately, then Kikapooo you can pick them up and strike them off the "RoC" registers.

But you insist yourself that your only 'rights' on the island come from ROC citizenship. If the TCs renounce this citizenship they renounce all 'rights' to the island and, as Kikapu says, reduces TCs to the status of the settlers.

You cannot escape the fact that the ROC is the sole legal representative of the island. You cannot insist on your rights as 'partners' in the ROC and at the same time denounce the ROC as irrelevant to the TCs. The only reason the TCs are currently not represented in the RoC's political structures is because of the Turkish occupation which has in turn fed loony fantasies of a TC separate state.

If you don't recognise the ROC you don't recognise the TC's rights on the island. You cannot have it both ways.

[supporttheunderdog]

I would point out that the TC's in fact walked out of government at Turkish insistence in 1963 in attempt to promote a crises that would have lead to invasion in 1964....so if they are not represented it is their own fault.

[Hermes]

I would point out that the TC's in fact walked out of government at Turkish insistence in 1963 in attempt to promote a crises that would have lead to invasion in 1964....so if they are not represented it is their own fault.

Exactly. TCs cannot insist that their 'rights' of representation in the ROC have been usurped when they were the ones who walked out in the first place in order to pave the way for a treacherous invasion of the island. Now that recognition of the illegal statelet is not forthcoming, they now claim that the ROC - under the constitution they themselves walked away from - gives them 'rights' of partnership. Even though they claim they don't 'recognise' the ROC. It's a totally illogical and contradictory position.

[kimon07]

Annan 2 was not put to a referendum like Annan 5, so the rejectionists have been revealed and the world has noted it....

You bet it has.

as for the benefits of the EU we are not talking about ......

You mean you don't care about the benefits of the EU? Then why on earth are you crying that you were "left out into the cold"?

......these we are highlighting that GCs who will head the EU are imposters they do not represent the north or the TCs, they were not elected by the TCs so how can they represent them.....

How stupid can you get? Are you telling me that if a part of the population of a country (not to mention a renegade small minority like yours) does not take part to the national elections then the results are not binding for this part of the population or the particular minority? You ARE crazy. In that case, the Greek State does not have authority over the 35% Greeks who did not vote during the recent national elections? Jeeez. How Turkish can you be!!

the isolation is forced on the TCs by the GCs.....

The isolation was forced on the TCs by Turkey and the TC puppet leadership who illegaly prohibit Cyprus from applying its authority over the whole of the island and on all of its subjects, including the 18% TC M I N O R I T Y

...as they do not see them as equals but only as a minority with minority status in their own country.....

Damn Right you are. That is exactly what you are under international law.

....plus the EU not keep their promises.....

In sovereign countries and under the EU and international Laws and regulations, the only promises that count are those made by the recognized sovereign authority of the particular country. You want to join and share? You will have to become legit first. The EU did not make any promises to you. The UN, the US, the UK and some EU politicians and administrators, UNOFICIALLY, were threatening the GCs that if we did not vote yes to the Annan Plan then the TC minority would be recognized as an independent entity. But that was just a threat. A blackmail. And you were so stupid and ignorant as to believe that these threats against us were promises to you. God how Turkish can a person be??

[Viewpoint]

Total rubbish, the TCs only take passports for the easy visa free travel they have no commitment to or support the "RoC" and they do not want the GCs to repreent them in shape or form, how can they TCs didnt vote for the GCs leaders who claim to represent all Cypriots, they probably even havent met any TCs...as for giving back these passports, if you offered recognition in return the whole TC population would throw these passports over the border immediately, then Kikapooo you can pick them up and strike them off the "RoC" registers.

But you insist yourself that your only 'rights' on the island come from ROC citizenship. If the TCs renounce this citizenship they renounce all 'rights' to the island and, as Kikapu says, reduces TCs to the status of the settlers.

You cannot escape the fact that the ROC is the sole legal representative of the island. You cannot insist on your rights as 'partners' in the ROC and at the same time denounce the ROC as irrelevant to the TCs. The only reason the TCs are currently not represented in the RoC's political structures is because of the Turkish occupation which has in turn fed loony fantasies of a TC separate state.

If you don't recognise the ROC you don't recognise the TC's rights on the island. You cannot have it both ways.

When someone dies it does not mean the inheritance disappears or the remaining children lose their rights isnt it about time you worked out that you cannot erase our rights, we are Turkish Cypriots with every legitimate right to stake our claim to part of this island and self determination.

[Viewpoint]

I would point out that the TC's in fact walked out of government at Turkish insistence in 1963 in attempt to promote a crises that would have lead to invasion in 1964....so if they are not represented it is their own fault.

They were kicked out at gunpoint and not allowed back unless they accepted Akritas which was like signing their own death warrant.

[kimon07]

I would point out that the TC's in fact walked out of government at Turkish insistence in 1963 in attempt to promote a crises that would have lead to invasion in 1964....so if they are not represented it is their own fault.

They were kicked out at gunpoint and not allowed back unless they accepted Akritas which was like signing their own death warrant.

Do you really believe that you are helping your "cause" when you keep repeating the same stupid TMT propaganda which has been proven a dirty lie over and over again? Boring. Very boring.