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[GreekIslandGirl]

Nice one, kikapu.

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

They send terrorists to Israel, the Israeli's massacre them.
They send warplanes to Syria, the Syrians shoot them down.

What's next?

Cap you forgot to mention how they tried to sneak into Iraq after not giving the USA permission to invade via Turkey. That ended in the bags over the Turkish soldiers heads fiasco.

[kimon07]

According to this pleb : http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria- ... sCatID=338

The plane was shot down without warning......

But didn't the clown Gul say it was going too fast? How could it be warned? Or was it flying in the Syrian air space for some time before it was shot down? They are realy f* in the head and they don't know what they are saying.

[kimon07]

If Turkey was in Syrias airspace then its a risk she took and lost just as solomon and climbing up the pole.

Was Solomon in any part of Turkish space at all?

Of course. "SPACE" in general is Turkish.

[kimon07]

Mama running to the rescue of its district mongrel

..Syria downing of Turkish plane "brazen and unacceptable": U.S.
Reuters – 4 hrs ago....Email
WASHINGTON (Reuters)

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemned Syria's downing of a Turkish fighter yet as "brazen and unacceptable" on Sunday and vowed close U.S. cooperation with Turkey to promote a political transition in Syria.

So the violation of the Syrian air space was aimed to promote political transision?

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-downing-tur ... 52763.html

[Kikapu]

According to radar traces provided by the chief of General Staff, the Turkish F4 was downed 13 nautical miles off the Syrian coast in international waters but crashed in Syrian territorial waters. The graphics underline that the Turkish jet unintentionally violated Syrian airspace at 11.42 for five minutes, only 16 minutes before contact was lost with the jet. At 11.44 Turkish radars informed the jet that it entered into Syrian airspace and told it to leave as soon as possible.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ankara ... sCatID=338

Lets analyze the above statement.

The Turkish Jet was in the Syrian airspace for 5 minutes according to above statement, and lets give it a modest speed of 500 knots per hour, which for a high performance jet like the F-4, it would be like being in 1st gear for a car. Even at that modest speed, in 5 minutes, if my calculations are correct, the jet would have travelled 41 nautical miles inside Syrian airspace, so if the jet was shot in International airspace but fell into Syrian waters within the 13 miles from shore, that means that the jet was coming toward Syrian land, which means it would have reach land in about 1.5 minutes to cover the 13 miles where the International boundaries start. Which ever way you look at it, 5 minutes is a long time for a fighter jet to be wondering aimlessly in the Syrian airspace covering at least 41 nautical miles at the modest speed of 500 Nautical Miles. If the jet was told to leave the Syrian airspace ASAP by the Turks, even if the Jet was flying above the Syrian coast, it could have hightailed out of there with it's afterburners to vacate the Syrian airspace in less than 30seconds to cover the 13 miles to reach International airspace. I'm sure the Syrians would not have fired on a jet that was heading away from Syrian land and heading out to sea and if they did fire and hit the jet, then the jet would have fell into International waters, but it did not, because if fell into Syrian waters, which means that the jet was coming toward Syria.

[supporttheunderdog]

nice analysis

[kimon07]

Shooting of Turkish jet no unilateral action, expert warns
24 June 2012 / SİNEM CENGİZ, ANKARA

Syria's shooting down of a Turkish plane on Friday should be considered a collective action that includes Russia, Iran, China and Iraq, rather than a unilateral action of Syria, an expert on the Middle East has said. Mehmet Seyfettin Erol, the head of Ankara's International Strategic and Security Research Center (USGAM), told Today's Zaman that the policies carried out in the region regarding the Syrian crisis were no longer a matter between two countries, Turkey and Syria.
Many other actors, among them Russia, China, Iran and Iraq are also involved, he said.

“There are countries in the region that consider Syria as a resistance front for their policies. Undoubtedly, these countries are Russia, Iran, China and Iraq. By shooting down the Turkish plane, these countries wanted to give a message to the international community that they would protect this front at all costs, including a war,” said Erol.

Read more:
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-284545- ... warns.html

[kimon07]

Greek SA-8 Anti Air System locks a Turkish F-4

(not very recent but nice).

This is pobably what the Syrians had on their screens before shooting down the Turk.

P.S. During the "lock on" the warning systems of the F-4 were probably screaming and buzzing like crazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... d30zCL6ovk

[CBBB]

Greek SA-8 Anti Air System locks a Turkish F-4

(not very recent but nice).

This is pobably what the Syrians had on their screens before shooting down the Turk.

P.S. During the "lock on" the warning systems of the F-4 were probably screaming and buzzing like crazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... d30zCL6ovk

I hope the pilot of that one was wearing his brown trousers!