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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby CBBB » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:32 am

Maximus wrote:According to this pleb : http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria- ... sCatID=338

The plane was shot down without warning, the Turks are 100% in the right since this act by the Syrian regime is against all dynamics of international law. :?

The Turks have got their knickers in a twist and what are they going to do about it : “We are not considering a military action now,”. :lol:


No warning? What were they waiting for, "Hey, Anatolian peasant, where do you think you are going?". Reply "??????". Answer "BANG"!
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Maximus » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:44 am

It certainly didn't go as planned.

Erdogan and Co. had other ideas and were counting on different rules of engagement.

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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Me Ed » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:52 am

The story keeps changing by the minute: Turks are now claiming the jet was in international airspace.

Of course Turkey's definition of international airspace is never the same as anyone elses.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18568412
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:14 am

kimon07 wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
kimon07 wrote:Newly-supplied Russian Buk-M2 anti-air missile used to down Turkish warplane
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report June 23, 2012, 12:55 PM (GMT+02:00)
http://www.debka.com/

Syria Friday shot down the Turkish Super Phantom jet with the sophisticated self-propelled medium range anti-air Buk-M2 missiles (NATO codenamed SA-11) recently supplied by Russia. Short of time to master the advanced SA-11, the Syrian crews would have called on their Russian instructors to help fire it. DEBKAfile: Moscow and Damascus may have decided to stop the almost daily Turkish air force flights over the Syrian coast for spying on Russian arms deliveries through the Russian bases of Tartus and Latakia.


As you have stated above, that I'm sure this was not the first incursion by the TAF into the Syrian airspace, and I'm sure the Syrians have warned Turkey not to do it. But Turkey thinks they are a superpower so they gave the middle finger to Assad, Erdogan's long time friend. Well, looks like the last incursion was the one that broke the turkey's back and Assad gave the middle finger to his old friend Erdigan and shot the plane down. I'm sure this will be the last incursion into Syrian airspace by TAF.


Another interpretation of the insident is that maybe Turkey provoked the insident in order to force NATO to get involved (to protect a member state/Turkey) as it has been trying to do these past weeks.


First of all, Turkey is not a trusted member of NATO. Turkey proved that during the Libyan war. She is tolerated as long as she is useful and serves the interests of the west. When Turkey loses her usefulness to the west, she will be pushed aside like an old shoe.

Syria does not have Oil like Libya does, therefore NATO is not about to get involved, specially not when Russia and China are behind Syria. Besides, Syria did not attack Turkey outside her own borders, but instead in the boundaries of her own air/land/sea borders. Turkey wants to be seen as the regional superpower and wants to teach Assad a lesson, hence the tough talk from Erdogan for the last year or so, but no action, because she can't do so without NATO, but uses the NATO's "all for one and one for all" protection to push her weight around in the region all the same, except this time they got one of their war planes shot out of the sky and sending two of their pilots to death, just because they thought Syria would not dare to do such an act.
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:29 pm

You wood be experts are pathetic just watch how things unfold the truth will out in the end, all this speculation of things you know nothing about makes you sound like morons.
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:08 pm

The warplane has been found in, i.e. within, Syrian territorial waters.


The location of the Turkish fighter jet shot down by Syria has been reportedly found in Syrian waters. Turkey knows the coordinates of the wreckage on the seabed but search and rescue teams have not yet found the aircraft as was earlier reported by Turkish media, said a foreign ministry spokesman.
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Maximus » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:22 pm

Viewpoint wrote:You wood be experts are pathetic just watch how things unfold the truth will out in the end, all this speculation of things you know nothing about makes you sound like morons.


Your 'would-be' experts are pathetic,

They don't know what hit them and their all dazed and confused trying desperately hard to recover. :lol:

Syria had all the right to down it and she even apologized.

Turkey should stop creating problems with her neighbors. :lol:
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:41 pm

If Turkey was in Syrias airspace then its a risk she took and lost just as solomon and climbing up the pole.
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Maximus » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:43 pm

that's not even a valid comparison VP5000,

it is actually a pathetic attempt to offend or insult because your pathetic little mind cannot comprehend or accept how you can be so consistently wrong.
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:41 pm

Viewpoint wrote:If Turkey was in Syrias airspace then its a risk she took and lost just as solomon and climbing up the pole.


Was Solomon in any part of Turkish space at all? :roll:
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