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[Kikapu]

Turkey still trying to explain what happened to the F-4 that went down.

I'm waiting to read next that the crash was caused by the Martians, by accident of course, because Martians were coming to Earth peacefully, but somehow, the F-4 got in the way of the Martian Spaceship and became a "road kill"!

DSP leader: Russia downed jet with new-generation missile

10 August 2012 / AYDIN ALBAYRAK, ANKARA

Masum Türker, chairman of the Democratic Left Party (DSP), has claimed that it was a Russian warship, and not Syria, that shot down a Turkish aircraft over the Mediterranean on June 22.

According to Türker, the Turkish jet was downed by a new-generation electromagnetic missile shot from one of the Russian warships which was in the region at the time of the incident. "New-generation missiles do not explode, but block the electronic systems,” Türker told Today's Zaman in an exclusive interview.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-289198- ... ssile.html

[kimon07]

Any official Turkish verdict yet about the causes of the crash? VP, Halil, anyone?

[Kikapu]

A mortar round ended up in Turkey today, fired from Syria killing innocent people and injuring many more, but no one knows by whom. Was it by the Syrian Army or the so called freedom fighters/foreign terrorists. If it was by the Syrian Army, it can only be a unintentionally, and if it was by the so called freedom fighter/foreign terrorist, then it was intentional to try and bring Turkey into the Syrian war. Personally, I believe it was by the so called freedom fighter/foreign terrorist, aka, the west. The west is determined to get Turkey into the Syrian war no matter what. The west wants to solve the Armenian, Kurdish and the Cyprus problems with Turkey, and this might be the way to do it. Turkey has tried very much to get NATO involved in the Syrian conflict by leading the charge, but NATO wants no part in it, so Turkey has been left all alone to be humiliated.

So Turkey finally built up enough courage to respond to the mortar attack by attacking Syrian territory, but not with the F16's, but by firing few rounds from the safety of the Turkish territory. That will teach the Syrians to mess with Turkey, which is what Erdogan basically said in his own way. Now Turkey is waiting for NATO, to follow Turkey's lead and for them to go into Syria. Fat chance! So why didn't Turkey send in the air force to really teach Assad a thing or two about Turkey's military might? Well, most probably the downing of the F-4 incident kept them on the ground, you think?

Interesting times are ahead for Turkey and for her neighbours!

[kimon07]

A mortar round ended up in Turkey today, fired from Syria killing innocent people and injuring many more, but no one knows by whom. Was it by the Syrian Army or the so called freedom fighters/foreign terrorists. If it was by the Syrian Army, it can only be a unintentionally, and if it was by the so called freedom fighter/foreign terrorist, then it was intentional to try and bring Turkey into the Syrian war. Personally, I believe it was by the so called freedom fighter/foreign terrorist, aka, the west.........

I am not too sure about the west but I am also sure about the insurgents/mercenaries.

Interesting times are ahead for Turkey and for her neighbours!

Absolutely!

[Kikapu]

A mortar round ended up in Turkey today, fired from Syria killing innocent people and injuring many more, but no one knows by whom. Was it by the Syrian Army or the so called freedom fighters/foreign terrorists. If it was by the Syrian Army, it can only be a unintentionally, and if it was by the so called freedom fighter/foreign terrorist, then it was intentional to try and bring Turkey into the Syrian war. Personally, I believe it was by the so called freedom fighter/foreign terrorist, aka, the west.........

I am not too sure about the west but I am also sure about the insurgents/mercenaries.

Interesting times are ahead for Turkey and for her neighbours!

Absolutely!

But the west is pushing and arming the so called freedom fighters in Syria, are they not?

Turkey is also doing the same as the west and not realising she is "digging her own grave" by doing so.

[Kikapu]

As soon as NATO stated they will not go to war with Syria because of the mortar attack on Turkish soil, Turkey does the same. Toothless Tiger once again show it's true stripes!

Turkey won’t declare war on Syria:
ANKARA

Turkish PM aide İbrahim Kalın, a senior adviser to Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, said today on his Twitter account that Turkey had no interest in a war with Syria but would protect its borders. He said political and diplomatic initiatives would continue, Reuters reported.

"Turkey has no interest in a war with Syria. But Turkey is capable of protecting its borders and will retaliate when necessary," Kalın wrote on Twitter. "Turkey has retaliated to yesterday's incident without declaring war on Syria. Political, diplomatic initiatives will continue."

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=338

[bill cobbett]

As soon as NATO stated they will not go to war with Syria because of the mortar attack on Turkish soil, Turkey does the same. Toothless Tiger once again show it's true stripes!

Turkey won’t declare war on Syria:
ANKARA

Turkish PM aide İbrahim Kalın, a senior adviser to Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, said today on his Twitter account that Turkey had no interest in a war with Syria but would protect its borders. He said political and diplomatic initiatives would continue, Reuters reported.

"Turkey has no interest in a war with Syria. But Turkey is capable of protecting its borders and will retaliate when necessary," Kalın wrote on Twitter. "Turkey has retaliated to yesterday's incident without declaring war on Syria. Political, diplomatic initiatives will continue."

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=338

May a very simple sort of person ask... When a state like Turkey shells targets in another state, it isn't an Act and Declaration of War against the other state...???

[Kikapu]

As soon as NATO stated they will not go to war with Syria because of the mortar attack on Turkish soil, Turkey does the same. Toothless Tiger once again show it's true stripes!

Turkey won’t declare war on Syria:
ANKARA

Turkish PM aide İbrahim Kalın, a senior adviser to Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, said today on his Twitter account that Turkey had no interest in a war with Syria but would protect its borders. He said political and diplomatic initiatives would continue, Reuters reported.

"Turkey has no interest in a war with Syria. But Turkey is capable of protecting its borders and will retaliate when necessary," Kalın wrote on Twitter. "Turkey has retaliated to yesterday's incident without declaring war on Syria. Political, diplomatic initiatives will continue."

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=338

May a very simple sort of person ask... When a state like Turkey shells targets in another state, it isn't an Act and Declaration of War against the other state...???

Or even allow rebel fighters to train on her soil and supply them weapons to fight in neighbouring state!

The problem is, the moment Turkey officially declares war on Syria, she will lose her NATO cover and protection, which she cannot afford to do, and we know that Erdogan has no convictions to declare war on principles alone, but is only an opportunist. Yes, Erdogan talks big, but that's all what he is good at doing. He cannot deliver what he spouts.

[Lordo]

turkey cannot scatch her arse without american go ahead. if they fired they were told to fire. they have been saying they would like to set a safe zone for the syrians so they dont have to cross into turkey for weeks.

but objectives of turkey change very quickly. if she goes into syria she aint never comin out and thats a fact. unless of course amerika orders her out. as she has not ordered her out of cyprus why should she do it for syria.

[Maximus]

from some of our Turkish brethren, it seems that the ottoman empire is alive and kicking,

The potential risk in 1000 words.