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[kimon07]

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Aksiyon offers new scenarios about downing of Turkish jet
Confusion over jet incident ‘a joke,’ says CHP leader
16 July 2012 / TODAY'S ZAMAN, İSTANBUL

Questions about the downing by Syria of a Turkish reconnaissance jet last month abound, as many of the statements which came from various sources turned out to be contradictory. The latest claims put forward by Aksiyon weekly's Haşim Söylemez suggest that the jet most likely crashed due to a technical problem that occurred shortly after Syrian ground troops shot and killed the first pilot.http://www.todayszaman.com/news-286681-aksiyon-offers-new-scenarios-about-downing-of-turkish-jet.html

Pilot shot dead by a/a fire = technical problem. Therefore, no retaliation.

[Kikapu]

U N B E L I E V A B L E

Aksiyon offers new scenarios about downing of Turkish jet
Confusion over jet incident ‘a joke,’ says CHP leader
16 July 2012 / TODAY'S ZAMAN, İSTANBUL

Questions about the downing by Syria of a Turkish reconnaissance jet last month abound, as many of the statements which came from various sources turned out to be contradictory. The latest claims put forward by Aksiyon weekly's Haşim Söylemez suggest that the jet most likely crashed due to a technical problem that occurred shortly after Syrian ground troops shot and killed the first pilot.http://www.todayszaman.com/news-286681-aksiyon-offers-new-scenarios-about-downing-of-turkish-jet.html

Pilot shot dead by a/a fire = technical problem. Therefore, no retaliation.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-286681- ... h-jet.html

What a bunch of baloney. Everyone from Erdogan down has lied so much about the downing of the Turkish Jet by trying to get a square peg into a round hole, now they are all writing more fiction.

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Why do you care so much?

[kimon07]

Why do you care so much?

Its a perfect case study about the turkish foreign policies, the deceptions and the attempted deceptions of the international community by Turkey, the cheap propaganda which they use thinking that the whole world has the same IQ as their Anatolian populations, and last but not least it demonstrates how the tried to drag NATO into a conflict which would certainly result into a major eruption with unpredictable consequences.

In other words it demonstrates that Turkey is acting as No1 factor of destabilisation in the region and must be isolated.

[Viewpoint]

Why do you care so much?

Its a perfect case study about the turkish foreign policies, the deceptions and the attempted deceptions of the international community by Turkey, the cheap propaganda which they use thinking that the whole world has the same IQ as their Anatolian populations, and last but not least it demonstrates how the tried to drag NATO into a conflict which would certainly result into a major eruption with unpredictable consequences.

In other words it demonstrates that Turkey is acting as No1 factor of destabilisation in the region and must be isolated.

Arent you pretty certain that the EU would back you up if Turkey suddenly decided to march south?

[CBBB]

Why do you care so much?

Its a perfect case study about the turkish foreign policies, the deceptions and the attempted deceptions of the international community by Turkey, the cheap propaganda which they use thinking that the whole world has the same IQ as their Anatolian populations, and last but not least it demonstrates how the tried to drag NATO into a conflict which would certainly result into a major eruption with unpredictable consequences.

In other words it demonstrates that Turkey is acting as No1 factor of destabilisation in the region and must be isolated.

Arent you pretty certain that the EU would back you up if Turkey suddenly decided to march south?

They won't do that, Turkey is too busy looking after it's territorial waters....in the Indian Ocean!

[Viewpoint]

Why do you care so much?

Its a perfect case study about the turkish foreign policies, the deceptions and the attempted deceptions of the international community by Turkey, the cheap propaganda which they use thinking that the whole world has the same IQ as their Anatolian populations, and last but not least it demonstrates how the tried to drag NATO into a conflict which would certainly result into a major eruption with unpredictable consequences.

In other words it demonstrates that Turkey is acting as No1 factor of destabilisation in the region and must be isolated.

Arent you pretty certain that the EU would back you up if Turkey suddenly decided to march south?

They won't do that, Turkey is too busy looking after it's territorial waters....in the Indian Ocean!

hyperthetically speaking...wouldnt you want to EU to back you up if you were attacked? why do you GCs see it has something wrong when Turkey claims her NATO partners should back her up?

[kimon07]

Why do you care so much?

Its a perfect case study about the turkish foreign policies, the deceptions and the attempted deceptions of the international community by Turkey, the cheap propaganda which they use thinking that the whole world has the same IQ as their Anatolian populations, and last but not least it demonstrates how the tried to drag NATO into a conflict which would certainly result into a major eruption with unpredictable consequences.

In other words it demonstrates that Turkey is acting as No1 factor of destabilisation in the region and must be isolated.

Arent you pretty certain that the EU would back you up if Turkey suddenly decided to march south?

Although your question is totally irrelevant to my comment, I will answer it. No I am not sure the EU will back me up (militarily, that is). I am pretty sure the Russians and the Israelis will. Maybe even the Americans. You see, this time Cyprus is weighted according to its resources. Times have changed since 1974. On the other hand, the Russians have considerable interests on the island now. Finally, am pretty certain Turkey will never dare any such move, UNLESS it gets the OK from the US and UNLESS it is assured that no third powers will act against it. Do you believe Turkey is capable of achieving such favourable conditions now?

[Viewpoint]

Why do you care so much?

Its a perfect case study about the turkish foreign policies, the deceptions and the attempted deceptions of the international community by Turkey, the cheap propaganda which they use thinking that the whole world has the same IQ as their Anatolian populations, and last but not least it demonstrates how the tried to drag NATO into a conflict which would certainly result into a major eruption with unpredictable consequences.

In other words it demonstrates that Turkey is acting as No1 factor of destabilisation in the region and must be isolated.

Arent you pretty certain that the EU would back you up if Turkey suddenly decided to march south?

Although your question is totally irrelevant to my comment, I will answer it. No I am not sure the EU will back me up (militarily, that is). I am pretty sure the Russians and the Israelis will. Maybe even the Americans. You see, this time Cyprus is weighted according to its resources. Times have changed since 1974. On the other hand, the Russians have considerable interests on the island now. Finally, am pretty certain Turkey will never dare any such move, UNLESS it gets the OK from the US and UNLESS it is assured that no third powers will act against it. Do you believe Turkey is capable of achieving such favourable conditions now?

I personally do not think or would want it to happen, the Gcs have rights to this island as well. My concerns would be the USA and their greed to control natural resources...if your find does pan out and your production is an effective source then the tug of war will be who controls it USA or Russia then Turkey comes into play. World politics want beyong the tiny Cypriost pawns.

[Kikapu]

Why do you care so much?

Its a perfect case study about the turkish foreign policies, the deceptions and the attempted deceptions of the international community by Turkey, the cheap propaganda which they use thinking that the whole world has the same IQ as their Anatolian populations, and last but not least it demonstrates how the tried to drag NATO into a conflict which would certainly result into a major eruption with unpredictable consequences.

In other words it demonstrates that Turkey is acting as No1 factor of destabilisation in the region and must be isolated.

Arent you pretty certain that the EU would back you up if Turkey suddenly decided to march south?

Although your question is totally irrelevant to my comment, I will answer it. No I am not sure the EU will back me up (militarily, that is). I am pretty sure the Russians and the Israelis will. Maybe even the Americans. You see, this time Cyprus is weighted according to its resources. Times have changed since 1974. On the other hand, the Russians have considerable interests on the island now. Finally, am pretty certain Turkey will never dare any such move, UNLESS it gets the OK from the US and UNLESS it is assured that no third powers will act against it. Do you believe Turkey is capable of achieving such favourable conditions now?

I personally do not think or would want it to happen, the Gcs have rights to this island as well. My concerns would be the USA and their greed to control natural resources...if your find does pan out and your production is an effective source then the tug of war will be who controls it USA or Russia then Turkey comes into play. World politics want beyong the tiny Cypriost pawns.

Just for your information, neither the USA, nor Russia go around stealing others natural resources. What the USA does however, is to make sure those natural resources flow problem free, just so not to cause panic in the markets, which would mean spike in prices, which the Americans hate. The Oil and Gas platforms will be operated by International companies from stable countries like France, USA, Russia, Italy, Britain, Canada and so on, therefore, Turkey has ZERO chance to do anything to these International companies. RoC is not as stupid as you may think. They are spreading their wealth with as many strong countries as possible. If Turkey were to cause problems to these International companies (I dare them), they will be hit so hard, they wouldn't know what hit them. The most Turkey can do is throw idle threats which Turkey has become experts in, such as all these Oil and Gas companies operating in the RoC EEZ areas will not be offered to produce any Oil and Gas fields if and when anything is ever found in Turkey's EEZ, if and when they sign the Law of the Sea agreements, determining where their EEZ lines are. You are putting all your eggs in the Turkey basket I'm afraid. Turkey has once again proved to be a toothless Tiger. What more evidence do you need?