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This is btw nothing about about being a T/C hater but about the lack of respect that Turkey shows towards the soverignty of its neighbors,which it violates on a continuing basis, and where we must recall this is about Turkish agression directed against Syria, involving a violation by a urkish military jet of Syrian airspace.

IFANYTHING TURKEY SHOULD BE THE ONE APOLOGISING, FOR THE VIOLATION OF SYRIAN AIRSPACE.

Just as the GCs should apologise for solomon climbing up the pole.

In his country? To get down the Anatolian filth flag? Go have your brain examined Linopambake Janissary.

In no mans land where he was warned and all hell had broken loose.

[kimon07]

This is btw nothing about about being a T/C hater but about the lack of respect that Turkey shows towards the soverignty of its neighbors,which it violates on a continuing basis, and where we must recall this is about Turkish agression directed against Syria, involving a violation by a urkish military jet of Syrian airspace.

IFANYTHING TURKEY SHOULD BE THE ONE APOLOGISING, FOR THE VIOLATION OF SYRIAN AIRSPACE.

Just as the GCs should apologise for solomon climbing up the pole.

In his country? To get down the Anatolian filth flag? Go have your brain examined Linopambake Janissary.

In no mans land where he was warned and all hell had broken loose.

In Cyprus there is only Cyprus land and the anatolian filth is simply illegal alien filth. And so are the Anatolians themselves.

[kimon07]

Turkey says no sign of missile attack yet in jet incident

8 July 2012 / TODAY’S ZAMAN, ANKARA

Defense Minister İsmet Yılmaz has said that examinations are ongoing as to how a Turkish military jet was shot down by Syria last month, saying there is no sign of land-to-air missile or another kind of weapon on found pieces of the plane.
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Syria also says the plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire, with the bullets having a range of only 2.5 kilometers, rather than by a missile.
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-285937- ... ident.html

[kimon07]

Turkish Armed Forces releases images of the downed jet wreckage

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Defaul ... 10&Slide=1

[Kikapu]

And you try to deflect from the real argument do you support and encourage to attack Syria? but thats how Turk haters work.

It's your lack of fully comprehending the written English language that always seems to let you down.

I never said that Turkey should attack Syria or even Israel.!

What I said was in many ways, is that Turkey CAN'T attack Syria or Israel, because Turkey is nothing but a toothless Tiger.

Turkey does not have any convictions, but rather, an opportunist when going against those much weaker than her, and even then, she has her hands full, be it be politically as the case is with the EU member state RoC or militarily, against the rag tag PKK. Turkey has not tested herself with any formidable force since before WWII, and for many good reasons I may add. Erdogan talks big, but can't deliver, because he has no balls to do anything based on convictions.

Here is an article by YUSUF KANLI. This journalist for a long time was a pussycat without Journalistic Integrity, but as of late, he has shown a lot of Integrity in certain areas to write facts as they are.

Turkey started with a “zero problems” with neighbors strategy, but ended up having no friends around. Trying to find excuses in the “but conditions have changed” cliché is unfortunately not enough. If conditions have changed, what are your alternate strategies to take our nose away from the mess? Obviously, the strategic depth doctrine was an academic work that failed in the field application. Forcing results obtained in the field to conform the doctrine can best be summed up with two words: Academic obsession. This is a very serious condition.

Unfortunately, Turkey made a very serious mistake in Syria. It thought that, as in Libya the regime would collapse quickly and would be replaced with the AKP’s “brothers” the Muslim Brotherhood. The “Sunni brotherhood” was instrumental in embracing Sudan’s bloodthirsty dictator Omar al-Bashir, but Bashar al-Assad was only an “Alawite brother.”

The end result: Yesterday Turkey was the “leading power” of the region aspiring to become a “regional big brother,” but today it has become a country whose reconnaissance plane can be downed. The rising power of yesterday is today a fragile and unpredictable country…

Sparing words regarding the failure in ties with Israel, and without forgetting his major share in the mess Turkey is landed in, Davutoğlu definitely deserves a standing ovation for at least confessing that the Syria policies of the AKP government have failed.
July/09/2012

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/applau ... sCatID=425

[Kikapu]

Well, do it already. What are you waiting for, dentures for the toothless Tiger or what.??

Israel killed 9 of your citizens on the high seas in International waters and Syria has shot down your jet with the loss of two crew members in it's own airspace but Turkey claims it was shot down in International waters, so lets take Turkey's version for the sake of argument, and all General is doing and saying is, "Just wait and see what we are going to do".

Please, someone wake me up when this general does anything interesting to pay back Israel and Syria, other than farting idiotic statements like the one above.

You'll see what we'll do when we do it: Turkish army
ISTANBUL

The world will see Turkey’s plan of action on Syria when the country puts it into practice, Chief of General Staff Gen. Necdet Özel said recently during an interview with daily Akşam's İsmail Küçükkaya.

"It's not like we will start a war," Özel said. "But we are following everything very closely. We have every capability of doing so."

Turkey will do "whatever great states do,” Özel added.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/youll- ... sCatID=338

[Kikapu]

And they just keep coming. I'm beginning to think these guys are reading my posts here on the forum and then regurgitating it to their readers later on.

Syria crisis shows limits of rising Turkish power

Turkey's bark seems worse than its bite. Ask the Syrians, who shot down a Turkish reconnaissance jet on June 22 and got away with it.
Turkish leaders shrilled up their rhetoric. They sent anti-aircraft missiles to the border and repeatedly scrambled F-16 fighters when Syrian helicopters flew too close. Ankara won supportive noises from its NATO allies. But that was it.

Ask the Israelis, who killed nine pro-Palestinian Turkish activists on the Gaza-bound Mavi Marmara aid ship in 2010, and got away with it. Turkey threatened to send its navy to protect future flotillas to Gaza, but never followed through.

The danger for Turkey is that its truculence, whether over the Mavi Marmara ship incident with Israel or over the loss of its F-4 off the Syrian coast, begins to look toothless.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-285977- ... power.html

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Kikapoo its obvious English is your second language as your posts have double meanings, full of innuendos and degrading rhetoric about Turks and TCs.

Now as to Turkey and Syria relations why the fuck do you care? other than using the situation to run Turkey into the ground as per your normal warped hatred full posts, you are so predictable.

[Kikapu]

Kikapoo its obvious English is your second language as your posts have double meanings, full of innuendos and degrading rhetoric about Turks and TCs.

Now as to Turkey and Syria relations why the fuck do you care? other than using the situation to run Turkey into the ground as per your normal warped hatred full posts, you are so predictable.

Yes, as a matter of fact, English is my second language. This is the first time you have ever gotten something right about me in the last 5 years or so. Well done!

If you claim to be a TC, why the fcuk do you care about Turkey, specially when accused of being a toothless Tiger without any convictions, but only an opportunist?

Well, on seconds thoughts, if you are a TC, then you should worry of Turkey being an opportunist without convictions, because she will sell your ass out to anyone to get something much better for herself.

[Viewpoint]

Kikapoo its obvious English is your second language as your posts have double meanings, full of innuendos and degrading rhetoric about Turks and TCs.

Now as to Turkey and Syria relations why the fuck do you care? other than using the situation to run Turkey into the ground as per your normal warped hatred full posts, you are so predictable.

Yes, as a matter of fact, English is my second language. This is the first time you have ever gotten something right about me in the last 5 years or so. Well done!

If you claim to be a TC, why the fcuk do you care about Turkey, specially when accused of being a toothless Tiger without any convictions, but only an opportunist?

Well, on seconds thoughts, if you are a TC, then you should worry of Turkey being an opportunist without convictions, because she will sell your ass out to anyone to get something much better for herself.

Will, could and maybe all speculation and dont cut it, 38 years of support is more than enough proof that Turkey is our biggest ally and the GCs are our enemy. Theres absolutely nothing you can say to change this, so wise up and concentrate on telling the GCs how they have to share and treat us as equal partners not a simple minority.