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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby wyoming cowboy » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:24 pm

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kimon07 wrote:A former senior U.S. official who worked closely with Turkey said he believed the flight's course was meant to test Syria's response. "You think that the airplane was there by mistake?" the former official said. "These countries are all testing how fast they get picked up and how fast someone responds. It's part of training."


I find I'm actually feeling sorry for the pilots. :(


Are you getting soft on us sister GIG? :)
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby kimon07 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:25 pm

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kimon07 wrote:A former senior U.S. official who worked closely with Turkey said he believed the flight's course was meant to test Syria's response. "You think that the airplane was there by mistake?" the former official said. "These countries are all testing how fast they get picked up and how fast someone responds. It's part of training."


I find I'm actually feeling sorry for the pilots. :(


They would happily turn you into charcoal with napalms if they had half the chance.
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:28 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
kimon07 wrote:A former senior U.S. official who worked closely with Turkey said he believed the flight's course was meant to test Syria's response. "You think that the airplane was there by mistake?" the former official said. "These countries are all testing how fast they get picked up and how fast someone responds. It's part of training."


I find I'm actually feeling sorry for the pilots. :(


Are you getting soft on us sister GIG? :)


I remember seeing a documentary once where they released a large cat in the vicinity of a Boa Constrictor and filmed it being killed. It was in a Tarzan film. Must have seen it over 30 years ago but I can still feel miserable for hours or even cry when it pops in my head (like now). Somehow this is on a par with that. A wasteful needless death. They have mums, you know.
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:32 pm

kimon07 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
kimon07 wrote:A former senior U.S. official who worked closely with Turkey said he believed the flight's course was meant to test Syria's response. "You think that the airplane was there by mistake?" the former official said. "These countries are all testing how fast they get picked up and how fast someone responds. It's part of training."


I find I'm actually feeling sorry for the pilots. :(


They would happily turn you into charcoal with napalms if they had half the chance.


I know they would, as they have done before to many GCs. Perhaps if they were in Cypriot territory and got shot down, I would not feel quite as bad. I know it's double standards. It's the deliberateness of Turkey's orders which gets me. Like when they kill or imprison their citizens for whatever little reason they decide upon. That bothers me too.
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby wyoming cowboy » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:27 pm

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wyoming cowboy wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
kimon07 wrote:A former senior U.S. official who worked closely with Turkey said he believed the flight's course was meant to test Syria's response. "You think that the airplane was there by mistake?" the former official said. "These countries are all testing how fast they get picked up and how fast someone responds. It's part of training."


I find I'm actually feeling sorry for the pilots. :(


Are you getting soft on us sister GIG? :)


I remember seeing a documentary once where they released a large cat in the vicinity of a Boa Constrictor and filmed it being killed. It was in a Tarzan film. Must have seen it over 30 years ago but I can still feel miserable for hours or even cry when it pops in my head (like now). Somehow this is on a par with that. A wasteful needless death. They have mums, you know.


I remember those Tarzan movies too. :o Tarzan, Jane, boy and cheetah. There was an episode where Tarzan is swinging from a vine over a lake and someone shoots him, his seemingly lifeless body falls into the lake, and had me thinking that Tarzan was really dead. Until he came out of the lake wounded and did manage to save the day....... :D
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby kimon07 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:21 am

Report: Russia says plane provoked Syria

MOSCOW - Agence France-Presse

A Turkish fighter jet shot down by Syria last month asked for trouble when it entered Syrian airspace, Interfax news agency quoted an unnamed Russian source as saying on July 3.

“The actions of the Turkish plane were no doubt a provocation. Otherwise how would you explain the fact that the fighter jet flew two, albeit short, sorties into Syrian airspace? The crew must have had only one motive for such an action – to test the combat-readiness of the Syrian air defense systems and it indeed tested them. And also to conduct a reconnaissance of the strength and capabilities of the Syrian air defense systems in the coastal direction,” the Russian source said. “In any case, the crew of the Turkish Phantom tried hard, literally asking for the Syrian air defenses’ fire.”

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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/report ... sCatID=353
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:29 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
kimon07 wrote:A former senior U.S. official who worked closely with Turkey said he believed the flight's course was meant to test Syria's response. "You think that the airplane was there by mistake?" the former official said. "These countries are all testing how fast they get picked up and how fast someone responds. It's part of training."


I find I'm actually feeling sorry for the pilots. :(


Are you getting soft on us sister GIG? :)


I remember seeing a documentary once where they released a large cat in the vicinity of a Boa Constrictor and filmed it being killed. It was in a Tarzan film. Must have seen it over 30 years ago but I can still feel miserable for hours or even cry when it pops in my head (like now). Somehow this is on a par with that. A wasteful needless death. They have mums, you know.

Clever PR stunt GIG. What you really think though is they have mums, you know, but so what, they are only filthy Turks.
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:35 pm

Has Erdogan apologised to Syria for violating it's airspace by any chance?

Has Erdogan apologised to the families of the two dead pilots shot down by Syria due to Erdogan's reckless behaviour by violating Syrian airspace deliberately?

Has Erdogan apologised for the deaths of 9 activists on "Mavi Marmara" killed by Israel, sent on a suicide mission by Erdogan to provoke Israel?

Has Erdogan apologised for killing 34 Kurds by TAF on Turkish territory?

Has Ergogan apologised for entering Cyprus territory without invitation by the RoC?

Has Erdogan apologised for anything wrong he and Turkey may have done?
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:41 pm

kimon07 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
kimon07 wrote:A former senior U.S. official who worked closely with Turkey said he believed the flight's course was meant to test Syria's response. "You think that the airplane was there by mistake?" the former official said. "These countries are all testing how fast they get picked up and how fast someone responds. It's part of training."


I find I'm actually feeling sorry for the pilots. :(


They would happily turn you into charcoal with napalms if they had half the chance.


They tried but failed miserably. GIG was saved for us. We have been suffering ever since.

BTW, the bodies of the pilots have been found. I am glad that GIGs maternal instincts still survive.

The problem I dont understand here is that Syria was a 'supposedly' friendly neighbor. I cant help of all the dogfights between TAF and HAF, if every time a there was an infringement, a plane was shot down, there would be no airforce left. Greece and Turkey are supposed to be enemies, innit! That would be great wouldn't it? :D
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Re: Turkish "False Flag" Operation?

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:03 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
kimon07 wrote:A former senior U.S. official who worked closely with Turkey said he believed the flight's course was meant to test Syria's response. "You think that the airplane was there by mistake?" the former official said. "These countries are all testing how fast they get picked up and how fast someone responds. It's part of training."


I find I'm actually feeling sorry for the pilots. :(


They would happily turn you into charcoal with napalms if they had half the chance.


They tried but failed miserably. GIG was saved for us. We have been suffering ever since.

BTW, the bodies of the pilots have been found. I am glad that GIGs maternal instincts still survive.

The problem I dont understand here is that Syria was a 'supposedly' friendly neighbor. I cant help of all the dogfights between TAF and HAF, if every time a there was an infringement, a plane was shot down, there would be no airforce left. Greece and Turkey are supposed to be enemies, innit! That would be great wouldn't it? :D


Deniz, don't be mislead by Turkey, because they are not telling the truth as to what happened or what their mission was. This was not a case of a plane that just wondered into Syrian airspace by mistake and got shot down without a warning. If this jet was on a reconnaissance mission, then it would have flown in certain angle and elevation and speed to what it was trying to gather information on. I'm sure this was not the first violation of the Syrian airspace by TAF. By Turkey actively supporting the opposition by giving them a base in Turkey and weapons, Turkey has in essence declared war on Syria, therefore, there should not be any surprises that any airspace violations at this point in time is no longer as business as usual and that it will not be tolerated. Lets see if Turkey will violate Syrian airspace again in the near future. I think not. The west has been egging Turkey to go to war with Syria for the last year or so, but Turkey does not have the balls to go it alone, and NATO is not about to get involved in Syria. For what exactly, just to inflate Erdogan's ego as "The Godfather", for him to be seen as the leader of the Arab world. Hardly!
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